LIVE THREAD: Carling Cup: West Ham United vs. Manchester United

First update coming right away...

according to varying twitter sources, Mark Clattenburg is the referee for this match and is currently running late. The authorities are saying he’ll be at the match and it will start on time.

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 6:32 PM GMT reply actions

Prediction

I’m predicting 3-0 to United.

Is Chicharito starting?

by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 6:46 PM GMT reply actions

Haven't heard yet

3-0 to United sounds good to me :D. Welcome to the blog!

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 6:51 PM GMT up reply actions

thanks! looking forward to the match :)

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 6:52 PM GMT up reply actions

I also extend

a warm welcome. I think we’ve been needing a women’s perspective around here.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 6:58 PM GMT up reply actions

much obliged!

Be warned: I’ve been known to objectify men on occasion.

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 7:06 PM GMT up reply actions

I love being an object!!!

So tell us about yourself. Why United?

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 7:10 PM GMT up reply actions

I’ve supported them so long I no longer have an answer to that question. It’s in my blood?

Also, Paul Scholes is the love of my life.

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 7:12 PM GMT up reply actions

The little ginger one?

I will never love a man the way I love Ryan Giggs. But I understand the Scholes loves too. They are both in that same group as Best, Law, Charlton, Cantona and Edwards as the all time great United attackers.

Did someone turn you on to the game and United?

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 7:15 PM GMT up reply actions

Same here

massive bro-love for Ryan Giggs.

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:17 PM GMT up reply actions

I think it happened in the womb.

Giggsy comes a close second but I just love it when Scholesy tackles some poor unsuspecting lamb to the ground.

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 7:18 PM GMT up reply actions

The only match I have ever been to

at Old Trafford Giggs scored a header and Scholes scored a screamer. Oh and Arsenal lost later in the day and we clinched the title. Not bad eh?

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 7:20 PM GMT up reply actions

Overcome with raging envy right now.

Hope to visit OT someday and procure a couple of Scholesy’s hairs. They’re making some real breakthroughs in cloning, you know.

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 7:22 PM GMT up reply actions

There is so much wrong

yet so right in that comment.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 7:34 PM GMT up reply actions

Starting 11:

SUBS: Amos, Brown, Park, Carrick, Rafael, Eikrem, Macheda

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:06 PM GMT reply actions

Glad to see Anderson is starting

still think Rooney could use this game. Especially since it should be a game that he can score in. But again I am not sure on his injury situation. He took a couple knocks the other day and maybe he needs another day or two to heal up a bit.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 7:11 PM GMT up reply actions

The weather over in the UK continues to be bitter

Just heard them say that the snow just let up at Upton Park…I assume they have an undersoil heating system of some sort, as this match will go on, yet lots of other matches around England have been postponed.

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:12 PM GMT up reply actions

Undersoil heating? Don’t mollycoddle them!

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 7:14 PM GMT up reply actions

It's minus 14

where I am. With the wind chill it feels like -19. And it snowed last night for the 4th straight night. I wish I was somewhere as tropical as England right now!!!!

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 7:18 PM GMT up reply actions

I assume that Celsius

Either way, that’s too damn cold. Ponds iced over for hockey yet?

62F here, going to make it up to 67 this afternoon…been near freezing at night for about the past week though.

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:23 PM GMT up reply actions

Yeah celsius

it’s actually not that bad cause it’s a very dry cold. It’s just when the win gets blowing. And I don’t think the lake ice is thick enough for hockey just yet.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 7:27 PM GMT up reply actions

West Ham Starting 11:

Green; Faubert; Tomkins, Upson, Ben-Haim; Barrera, Kovac, Spector, Morte; Cole, Obinna
SUBS: Boffin, Reid, Parker, McCarthy, Stanislas, Hines, Piquionne

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:16 PM GMT reply actions

Pretty strong lineup as expected from the Hammers

I suppose I’m a bit surprised that Parker and McCarthy are on the bench, but Parker is a regular and probably due a rest and I’m sure the same applies to McCarthy.

Now I really wish Rooney was playing…he and Ben-Haim had a rivalry when BH was at Citeh that was nearly as bad as Roy Keene and Patrick Viera.

And of course, we get to see former United player Jonothan Spector, who only made 3 appearances on the first team.

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:21 PM GMT up reply actions

Nick Coppack from ManUtd.com says:

149 – Sir Alex hasn’t named an unchanged Manchester United starting XI for 149 games (Barcelona & West Ham, May 2008). Rotation.

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:33 PM GMT reply actions

Also, tonight makes 849 appearances for Ryan Giggs

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:39 PM GMT up reply actions

That's decent

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 7:40 PM GMT up reply actions

He's also wearing the armband for United tonight

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:41 PM GMT up reply actions

Video just started working

The snow continues to fall at Upton Park as the winter storms continue to batter England

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:41 PM GMT reply actions

crap completely forgot

there’s no clock on the screen, so I have no clue what the time actually is.

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:48 PM GMT reply actions

There is a clock on the feed I am watching

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 7:49 PM GMT up reply actions

West Ham win a pair of early corners

unable to do anything with either…after a bit of back and forth, ball goes out for a United goal kick

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:49 PM GMT reply actions

6th minute: United attacking really well

Anderson with a great through ball to Bebe, who is unable to control it right in front of goal.

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:52 PM GMT reply actions

Great tackle from Evans there

perfectly timed.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 7:53 PM GMT reply actions

7th minute: Obertan with a fantastic chance and bangs is off the very front of the far post

great service from Bebe on the right whose cross appears to be under control now

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:53 PM GMT reply actions

Crisp passing

lots of movement and great tempo to the attacks. This is much more like the United we are used to.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 7:55 PM GMT reply actions

to be a simplistic bastard

United always seem to look better when they’re focused on movement and making strings of one touch passes. When they spend too much time over the ball, the game seems to get bogged down and nobody wants to go on any run.

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 7:59 PM GMT up reply actions

1-0 to the Hammers

Victor Obinna gets the goal off a deflection. Spector makes a fantastic run and Smalling gave him too much space….

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:03 PM GMT reply actions

And the goal is being called back?

I think they’re saying Obinna was offsides….

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:03 PM GMT up reply actions

Spector was offside

and the ball deflected off him. Took too long but the call was correct.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 8:04 PM GMT up reply actions

yeah, they just showed a replay

where the ball deflected off Spector…it explains why Kuzczak was going left when the (deflected) shot went right.

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:06 PM GMT up reply actions

so...back to 0-0

2 Hammers were definately offside on the shot…controversy always follows Mark Clattenburg

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:05 PM GMT up reply actions

Spectors heads one in, makes it 1-0 West Ham

they won’t be calling that one back….

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:08 PM GMT reply actions

I'm very displeased with how the back line have played so far

and John O’Shea in particular. Rafael and Brown after the break, perhaps?

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:18 PM GMT reply actions

Well this is not what I was expecting

the first 12-14 minutes we looked great. What happened? The passing, the movement, it’s all gone.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 8:18 PM GMT reply actions

Hernandez with a cross and a header by Bebe...but Green is right there for the save

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:18 PM GMT reply actions

Jonathan Spector picks up goal #2

after Fabio slipped and left a ball about 10 yards from goal.

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:23 PM GMT reply actions

Boa Morte took Fabio down

Fabio lies on the ground in pain, but is able to walk off the pitch….very painful looking. Now jogging on the sidelines…

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:30 PM GMT reply actions

Sir Alex on the touchline telling Boa Morte a thing or two about a thing or two

clearly not happy about the challenge. 4 minutes added on

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:31 PM GMT reply actions

Should be an...interesting...team talk at halftime from Sir Alex

Hernandez goes down after a rough challenge….

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:34 PM GMT reply actions

Is there a worse official

in the world of football than Clattenburg?

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 8:34 PM GMT reply actions

Remember last month when Tony Pulis was ranting about the officials?

That was Clattenburg too, right?

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:36 PM GMT up reply actions

I can only assume

cause he looks lost out there. No booking for Boa Morte? No free kick even? Nothing for the foul by Upson at the end of the half? What’s this muppet on about?

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 8:37 PM GMT up reply actions

To be fair, that was a clean tackle by Upson

Boa Morte, on the other hand, did a little scissors action on Fabio…in the box, no less, amiright?

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:39 PM GMT up reply actions

I didn't see a replay where Upson

got the ball. The commentator said he did but I couldn’t see it. And the commentator I am listening to has had almost as bad an evening as the Ref.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 9:04 PM GMT up reply actions

Halftime sub for United: Bebe off for Macheda

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:50 PM GMT reply actions

....and the live thread dies....

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:55 PM GMT reply actions

Green attempts to clear the ball, kicks it off Macheda

Hernandez pounces on the loose ball, but Green able to recover

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 8:57 PM GMT reply actions

Carlton Cole heads the ball in, makes it 3-0

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 9:02 PM GMT reply actions

One striker in the box

and Smalling and Evans are acres apart. Not understanding that.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 9:03 PM GMT up reply actions

My prediction was right

for the other team, that is.

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 9:04 PM GMT up reply actions

On the bright side

it is the carling cup. Not the FA Cup, League or Champions league.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 9:04 PM GMT reply actions

no excuses

Guess who’s sleeping in the cellar tonight!

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 9:05 PM GMT up reply actions

The back four?

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 9:05 PM GMT up reply actions

everyone

except Giggsy, natch

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 9:06 PM GMT up reply actions

It's not really an excuse

it’s just the least important of the four. So it could be worse.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 9:08 PM GMT up reply actions

If we find a goal here in the next 5-10 minutes

we could still turn this around.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 9:09 PM GMT reply actions

Rafael on for Fabio

Evans is crap, O’Shea is crap, Smalling is crap…maybe Rafael won’t be crap too

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 9:11 PM GMT reply actions

Cole scores again...4-0 to West Ham

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 9:12 PM GMT reply actions

oh lawd

I ain’t happy

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 9:13 PM GMT up reply actions

Fuck me Clattenburg is fucking useless

plays the advantage and we go forward three yards before giving the ball away and he doesn’t blow for the free kick. Leads straight to a goal at the other end. This guy is fucking horrific.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 9:13 PM GMT reply actions

Brown on for Evans...too late for this change, IMO

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 9:18 PM GMT reply actions

This.

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 9:19 PM GMT up reply actions

what's worse is

that’s all three changes so that means we won’t be seeing Eikstrom, who I really wanted to get another look at

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 9:19 PM GMT up reply actions

So is it usually just the 2 of you in here?

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 9:19 PM GMT reply actions

we have a few others that are in and out

trying to build a community here…gotta start small, I guess

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 9:20 PM GMT up reply actions

Cosy!

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 9:22 PM GMT reply actions

I'm just glad it's much less

of a sausage party now!!!!

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 9:22 PM GMT up reply actions

lol

I’m usually in an all-female footie forum

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 9:28 PM GMT up reply actions

What is it with me and this team?

Down 4-0 with 10 minutes left. It’s really bothering me to watch this. I have a hard time dealing with losses. Yet I can’t turn it off cause I keep thinking, “well, if we get one here…..”

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 9:25 PM GMT reply actions

meh

I’m in the middle of a move and need to run and get my trailer so I can move the last of the stuff…..doing a bit of unpacking and sorting at the momen

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by CPC on Nov 30, 2010 9:29 PM GMT up reply actions

Pray to Chicha

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 9:30 PM GMT up reply actions

You know what the most frustrating part of this game is for me?

The fact that West Ham have defended really poorly and we haven’t taken advantage. How many clearances have they sliced? How many runs have they failed to pick up a runner? Yet we haven’t really looked like scoring.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 9:31 PM GMT reply actions

Obertan & Bebe need to buck up

Giggsy is literally puking in their mouths like a mother sparrow and all they can do is f*** up

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by littlemissunited on Nov 30, 2010 9:33 PM GMT up reply actions

Alright I am going to try and get through

the next 4 and a half hours of work before I go home to sleep this shitty day off.

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by Section 312 on Nov 30, 2010 9:35 PM GMT reply actions