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LONDON ENGLAND - AUGUST 08:  Dimitar Berbatov of Manchester United celebrates as he scores their third goal during the FA Community Shield match between Chelsea and Manchester United at Wembley Stadium on August 8 2010 in London England.  (Photo by Laurence Griffiths/Getty Images)


So on the evidence of Sunday's match United seem to have more fire power up front this season. Hernandez won't stop scoring, Berba has looked sharper this pre-season than he did most of last season, and Rooney was lively in the first half and set up a goal. Owen is the 4th/5th choice depending on Macheda. So do you think United have enough fire power up front this season? We were derailed last season when Rooney went down. Do you worry about that happening again? Let me know in the comments section.

 

For my part I think Hernandez is going to be a steal and will have a nice season of around 15 goals. Berba should be around that mark again. So I still think, unless Nani and Valencia score more, that we will need Rooney to get around 30. He certainly is capable of hitting those highs again and I think he will. I am concerned if he gets hurt that we will again struggle for goals. I don't think you can expect Chicharito to have a consistent season in terms of goal scoring in his first year in European football. He seems like he can score in bunches but I would expect a couple of longish droughts.

 

So my conclusion. I think we just about have enough goals if Macheda can get some more minutes and find the back of the net with some regularity.

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I don’t see either Owen or Macheda as 4th. United would be more likely to go with a lone striker than pair one of those two with the three obvious candidates.

This is nothing more than my opinion but it always sounds better as a definitive statement.

by nolefansam on Aug 9, 2010 9:52 PM BST reply actions  

I’d like to see how Rooney and Hernandez play together.

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 9, 2010 11:15 PM BST up reply actions  

I think we'll be fine.

Rooney: 25
Berba: 15
Chicharito: 10
Kiko: 5
Owen: 5
Nani: 6
Valencia: 8
Scholesy: 4
Cleverly: 6 (Surprise of the season)
Vida: 4
Rio: 2
Brazilian Nevilles: 4
Giggsy: 3
Fletcher: 4
Park: 3
Obertan: 3
Gibson: 5

There’s my predicitions for goal scorers.

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by ChillMike on Aug 9, 2010 9:55 PM BST reply actions  

Cleverly is going to go out on loan

for the whole season, no?

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 12:32 AM BST up reply actions  

No. The fanshot posted here had bad information.

Then again, SAF could backtrack.

by skipkirk on Aug 10, 2010 12:50 AM BST up reply actions  

Well I know he hasn't gone yet

but I was under the impression he was going to go eventually. He isn’t ready in my opinion to play for United. I think he needs another year of first team football especially if he is playing a lot in the premier league like Jack Wilshere did last season for Bolton on loan from Arsenal.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 1:02 AM BST up reply actions  

Friday quote from Sir Alex
Ferguson stated: "Tom Cleverley is going to stay. He is an exceptional young player in the sense of his ability to play in different positions.

“He is such a mobile boy who can play wide on either side and in central midfield. Also, which he has showed at Watford last year, he is a goalscorer.

“Tom has got outstanding qualities as far as goalscoring is concerned, so he is going to stay.”

Gotta disagree with you, the kid was scoring goals for fun last season, besides the fact that playing/practicing along Paul Scholes can do nothing but help improve his game.

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by ChillMike on Aug 10, 2010 1:54 AM BST up reply actions  

Nothing improves a player

like playing. And I can’t see him getting that much time this season. He is still behind Valencia, Park, Nani, Giggs, Scholes, Carrick, Fletcher, Gibson and maybe even Obertan. That isn’t much playing time for a young player who needs to be on the pitch.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 2:03 AM BST up reply actions  

I agree

I perhaps see at least a loan until January in the cards

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 2:06 AM BST up reply actions  

No goals for O'Shea

Evans or Smalling? O’Shea always seems to get one or two important goals.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 12:34 AM BST up reply actions  

Subtract one from Rio, subtract two from Gibson, and you get O'Shea.

Hopefully he gets the dagger against Liverpool again.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 1:14 AM BST up reply actions  

I do love seeing that goal

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 1:16 AM BST up reply actions  

One goal can be against Liverpool, another against City, and the last in the title-clincher.

There! I like that…

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 1:18 AM BST up reply actions  

Yeah I forgot Johnny

I’ll mark him down for 2 maybe 3………Evans I donno and I’m still VERY skeptical about Smalling.

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by ChillMike on Aug 10, 2010 1:55 AM BST up reply actions  

You are skeptical

about a 20 year old guy who has played roughly 25 times between Fulham and Maidstone in competitive fixtures at a position where players generally peak a little later after a few pre-season outings? I wouldn’t rush to any judgment on Smalling at this point.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 2:05 AM BST up reply actions  

agree completley

He will suprise all of the doubters with some good coaching and experience

by Sweet science on Aug 13, 2010 3:05 PM BST up reply actions  

15 goals for Chicharito is quite optimistic.

I hope he breaks ten but I think that we should be patient with him.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 10:13 PM BST reply actions  

Well I did say around 15

I mean Owen got 9 last term and didn’t play that much. We create a lot of chances and if he has shown anything in pre-season Hernandez has shown he knows how to be in the right place at the right time. Oh and he can finish. If he gets the playing time I think he will get goals. This isn’t a young player coming through the reserves. He is an international and at 22 is right around the age Rooney was when him and Ronaldo became forces on the world stage. If he gets the time on the pitch he will get goals.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 12:37 AM BST up reply actions  

I guess so, the big point being that we don't have to worry about our striking options that much.

If you’re saying 15 total goals in all competitions, I would agree. 15 premiership goals I think is a stretch though, IMO. Just me…

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 1:11 AM BST up reply actions  

No I was talking all comps

He will probably get a hat full in the cups. I can’t see a team from the second or third divisions coping with his pace.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 1:17 AM BST up reply actions  

Okay then I totally agree with you then, the numbers make sense

Sorry about my misinterpretation

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 1:18 AM BST up reply actions  

No

Chico will get us plenty. I love him already!

by Sweet science on Aug 13, 2010 3:05 PM BST up reply actions  

I have no worries whatsoever about our forwards. I don’t think we’ll need to overwork Rooney quite like we had to last season since Chicharito and Berba should get plenty of playing time.

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- Republik of Mancunia
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 9, 2010 11:15 PM BST reply actions  

I don’t think we’re going to need to depend on Rooney as much this year. By season’s end Chicharito may have developed into something spectacular. I know it’s premature, but I don’t care :)

Also, the SBNation EPL Preview is absurd, if anyone hasn’t read it

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by Anthony Pace on Aug 10, 2010 12:52 AM BST reply actions  

Can you provide a link?

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 1:03 AM BST up reply actions  

sorry for bailing, got a wee bit drunk too early yesterday

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MMA For Real

by Anthony Pace on Aug 10, 2010 10:58 PM BST up reply actions  

You never have to apologize for that

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 11, 2010 7:28 AM BST up reply actions  

I’d agree with that in general too.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 1:14 AM BST up reply actions  

Here is the

link.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 1:16 AM BST up reply actions  

I mean he usually does a great job, but eh.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 1:20 AM BST up reply actions  

I didn't see too much wrong there

I agree about Blackpool and Holloway and I definitely agree last season was a low season for United.

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 1:31 AM BST up reply actions  

I'm predisposed to hate Holloway.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 1:40 AM BST up reply actions  

Why is that?

"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor

by Section 312 on Aug 10, 2010 1:43 AM BST up reply actions  

(1) His demeanor is tricky. (2) He reeks of the negative type of cunning, even if his Plymouth spell was all good-ol-boy.

(3) Blackpool. (4) I happen to be a fan of Leicester. (You can do your research there).

I wish him the best, but I don’t really like him. (Hate is a strong word so I take that back.)

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 2:00 AM BST up reply actions  

I think Hernandez will get 10..
Owen will get more than 10.. =D

I’m not sold on Macheda scoring more than 5..
I think we are strong in the striking department..
Think we are strong in almost every department in fact..

by dingmajiao on Aug 10, 2010 5:25 AM BST reply actions  

Off-topic

Stevie G with the quote of the week, discussing Joe Cole:

Messi can do some amazing things, but anything he can do Joe can do as well, if not better."

“He used to shock us in training by doing footy tricks with a golf ball that most players can’t even do with a football. I really fancy Joe for the [player of the year] award this season.

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/10: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man
Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- Republik of Mancunia
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 11, 2010 6:17 AM BST reply actions  

I saw that yesterday and almost had tears coming out of my eyes from laughing so hard

He later compared himself to being a mix of Pele and Beckenbauer ;)

Since I didn’t get an answer in the last thread, has anyone heard/seen anything about 3rd jerseys this year?

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by ChillMike on Aug 11, 2010 6:25 PM BST up reply actions  

I can understand wanting to talk him up and sing his praises or whatever, but there is such a thing as going too far.

The third kit will be last season’s second kit- the black shirt with blue chevron

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Green and Gold Till the Club is Sold- Republik of Mancunia
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 11, 2010 8:20 PM BST up reply actions  

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