Suarez Charged in Evra Incident
I guess we'll see what comes from the hearing, but not looking good for Suarez at this time. Apparently they found something (perhaps his comments in Uruguay) to substantiate the claim.
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Ugh
Sadly this an outcome that could only have been bad. Either one is lying or one did racially abuse the other.
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There might be middle ground
In Uruguay Suarez stated that he was only calling Evra something that his teammates called him. Perhaps it was/is racially tinged, but Suarez didn’t realize what he was doing. I’m not making excuses for him, just speculating. I just find it hard to believe that any footballer would racially abuse another “over 10 times” throughout a match and think that they would get away with it. John Terry said it in the heat of the moment and it was clearly captured on video. Suarez looked to be enjoying himself all game tormenting Evra.
I read the other day that the investigation had found no video evidence, so I am curious what evidence caused them to file the charges.
But you are 100% right Gene, there was no good outcome likely to come from this. If the conclusion is that he actually did do it, he should be banned for the rest of the season at a minimum. Same for John Terry.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
The statement from the FA was vague
I’m sure there is certainly much more to come.
There is no sport that is more global or ethnically diverse than this one. When considering that, it is amazing how much racism actually does exist. Even more so with so many players having the access to diversity. Sure, some of this is also from fans who have not had the same experience but it’s still sad.
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I think they have some evidence but they're trying to ensure everything seems correct before releasing in order to not to anger opposition fans.
I don’t think rest of the season would be very fair.. I think 3-10 games plus a fine would be good enough..
I think 10 games would be a minimum.
Unfortunately I think he needs to be made an example of if it really is out and out racism. However, based on all the conjecture surrounding the issue, perhaps it would be better to make an example of John Terry since his case seems very very blatant and indefensible.
Keep in mind I am a Liverpool fan, but I would rather lose him and be in a relegation battle than have him on our team if it turns out he was intentionally provoking Evra with racist taunts. There is still a lot to be decided/figured out though and Suarez will have his hearing. I am curious to hear what evidence they found to convince them to bring charges.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
Has anyone heard what Blatter had said today
There is no racism in football. Anything that is said should simply be resolved with a handshake at the end of the game
Sorry if I put this bluntly. But what a fucking TIT
"a fucking TIT"
well put
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Well said
That is something we can all agree on. He is an idiot and single-handedly holding the sport back. I have no idea how he continues to be elected. Thankfully this is his last term. It is shocking that his challengers have been deemed less fit than him to become FIFA president. I guess it is easy to soar like an eagle when you fly with turkeys…or run unopposed…or opposed by someone more corrupt than you.
The beautiful game is flourishing in spite of Blatter, not because of him.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
What he said was absolute bullocks.
Anyone remembers he said there’s no corruption in FIFA? =D
Ha that's a laugh.
But anyways I hope the FA gives a just punishment because i’ve always known football to be a gentleman’s sport and it’s awful for a guy like Luis Suarez to bring race onto the pitch. I read that in his country it’s not a bad thing to refer to a man of color as a negro. Well just because it’s alright to say it in Uruguay dosen’t mean it’s alright to say it in the UK. There two different countries that have two different types of cultures.
Sorry but I despise any type of racism, espically in sports.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 17, 2011 6:26 PM GMT up reply actions
However, does that make him a racist and his comments racist?
Or does it just make him an idiot? There is a big difference. If all of the speculation is true about the word he used being acceptable in Uruguay, I am leaning towards idiot.
Perhaps he should be punished, for it, but if it is just a huge cultural misunderstanding then he should get 1-3 games for being stupid.
If it was racist in intent, I am all for throwing the book at him.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
Below is the link to the Guardian article which pretty much spells it out. I don’t think Suarez is an inherently bad person even though he has bitten another player and now this. I the article it says that this can be a term of endearment. I don’t think that is what Luis was attempting to do. He is a very competitive player and let the his competitive spirit get the best of him. Unfortunate because Liverpool need him.
If he meant it in a derrogatory manner that is not acceptable. Best case we have two different cultures and this is a big misunderstanding. Worst case Suarez is a racist. But an interest quote from Suarez is that he called him a term in which his teammates call him, which could be a double standard. I am not sure of the details behind that. Also, I have not heard anything from any of Evra’s MUFC teammates, if it was that offensive why has no one else come forward publicly shaming Luis?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/13/luis-suarez-patrice-evra?newsfeed=true
I don't buy the double standard issue.
If a random dude on the street called me some of the names my friends have called me, we’d be scrapping at the flag pole.
You wouldn't last long near a flagpole
It is getting cold outside and I know you wouldn’t be able to resist sticking your tongue on it.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
Dude you know I normally agree with you. But you can’t selectively be offended. I am sorry but I cannot get behind that idea. Just because someone knows you it is ok to slur at them?
That is dumb and ignorant. I think that all rappers and anyone else that use racial slurs are just plain ignorant and idiots. Was Suarez an idiot, probably.
I’m not sure I could ever be offended by anything. I’m just not wired like that. I see it as more of a respect issue. The words wouldn’t bother me but the attitude would be my problem.
I also didn’t mean slurs. I’m as white as they come and don’t typically get targeted for racial abuse.
Example that immediately came to mind with this Evra situation was my brother when we were kids. He was a little chubby and I always called him Fatty. He had no problem with it but if some one he didn’t know said it he would let them know that wasn’t acceptable to him.
I think being called by someone close fatty is easier to be tolerate than being called some racist comments..
Some really really close friends might get away with it.. But then it’s still not nice to do so.. And best if you apologise if you said that (to a really close friend) to maintain good relations..
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