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LIVE THREAD: Manchester United vs. Crystal Palace | Carling Cup quarter-final

ALDERSHOT, ENGLAND - OCTOBER 25:  Ezekiel Fryers of Manchester United tries to tackle Danny Hylton of Aldershot during the Carling Cup Fourth Round match between Aldershot Town and Manchester United at at the EBB Stadium, Recreation Ground on October 25, 2011 in Aldershot, England.  (Photo by Ian Walton/Getty Images)

TV: Sky Sports 1 (U.K.), Fox Soccer Plus (U.S.), FoxSoccer.tv (internet)
SCORECENTRE: Sky Sports
MATCH PREVIEW: The Busby Babe
WEATHER: Old Trafford
REFEREE: Chris Foy
ODDS: Manchester United 1/4, Draw 9/2, Crystal Palace 11/1


MUFC starting XI: Ben Amos; Rafael, Chris Smalling, Jonny Evans (c), Fabio; Antonio Valencia, Darron Gibson, Ji-Sung Park, Mame Biram Diouf; Federico Macheda, Dimitar Berbatov

MUFC bench: Anders Lindegaard, Zeki Fryers, Will Keane, Paul Pogba, Ravel Morrison, Larnell Cole, Jesse Lingard

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No Pogba, Morrison, nor Fryers in the starting XI

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 7:04 PM GMT reply actions  

But Rafael and Fabio… which is something I always love to see.

by Caviarhound on Nov 30, 2011 8:17 PM GMT up reply actions  

The amount of players they brought in

They were never gunna Gel immediatley. But if the yfinished around 12th this season. Which IMO is more than achievable they really couldhave kicked on next season

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 8:03 PM GMT up reply actions  

Haha

You think Owners have a reputation of being that smart?

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 8:12 PM GMT up reply actions  

Well Roman Abramovich dis pay 30 million pounds to get AVB

So you may have a point.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 8:13 PM GMT up reply actions  

And yet Steve Kean is still employed

Intrestring move, but I guess when your a team like Sunderland on the border of the relegation zone regardless of the people on your team, a change has to be made and getting rid of Bruce was that change.

Shame that a fellow Red Devil was sacked today.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 8:12 PM GMT up reply actions  

Yeah!

How the hell is Steve Kean still employed!

by dingmajiao on Nov 30, 2011 8:19 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Stupid owners

Sunderland sack Bruce and Kean in a job

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 8:19 PM GMT up reply actions  

Well I was watching the review show yesturday

And they say Kean has the type of contract that makes him harder to fire. Who cares what type of contract he has? This guy is taking Rovers down in a sinking ship and one the few choices Venky’s has of righting things on the team is to sack Kean. I mean the guy has only one win and lets be fair, if Arsenal didn’t let in 2 og’s the Gunners would of won the game, Kean lucked out on that one. They played a game I believe againist Norwich in which they had a 3-1 lead and blew it in the end.

If Blackburn has any hopes of playing Premier League football next year, a manager change is needed quick. Otherwise have fun in the Championship next year playing Millwall and Derby County. I assume Venky’s want no part of being in that league since they are probally part of the group of foreign owners that want the promotion and relegation system scrapped in the Premier League.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 8:42 PM GMT up reply actions  

hmmmm

I guess the Glazers are smart enough to keep Fergie

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 8:51 PM GMT up reply actions  

Yep

Say what you want about them, but atleast they don’t meddle and they let SAF and David Gill make a majority of the club’s decsions.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 8:55 PM GMT up reply actions  

So being in the relegation zone for pretty much all year

And blowing games all year counts as a “good vibe” on that team? Intrestring.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 8:58 PM GMT up reply actions  

Good vibe was last season

But I wouldn’t be suprised if they are loving the vibe still

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 9:00 PM GMT up reply actions  

Must be since he still has a job

For now atleast.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:01 PM GMT up reply actions  

They updated his contract last week

And they attended a game, but left at half time because it was too cold…..

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 9:02 PM GMT up reply actions  

Well they are from India so the weather in England was probally too much for them to handle.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:04 PM GMT up reply actions  

+1

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:06 PM GMT up reply actions  

Look out fot Zaha for Palace

19 year old kid with bundles of confidence

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 7:57 PM GMT reply actions  

That kid been dangerous all game so far for Palace

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 8:14 PM GMT up reply actions  

your right it should of been a free kick.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 8:16 PM GMT up reply actions  

Yeah I see thst

And Fabio has been looking real frustrated all game.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 8:19 PM GMT up reply actions  

Good try by Diouf.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 8:32 PM GMT reply actions  

Wow Palace is really starting to get dinged up.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 8:36 PM GMT reply actions  

hurt.

We say that instead of saying the work hurt in America.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 8:43 PM GMT up reply actions  

Well, that was a shit half
  • Palace 3 v 2 advantage in the center causing United trouble in regards to possession
  • United not playing with enough width on the right side. Valencia keeps tucking in centrally to help out defensively but when we regain possession, we’re way too slow in playing the ball and we’re not switching it. (I’m looking at you Gibson). Rafael has continually had space to get down the touchline
  • The off the ball movemen by the other attackers when Berba drops deep to receive is very poor.
  • Diouf gave nothing other than a decent attempt on that Valencia cross into the box near the end.
  • Holy hell… Zaha looks like a player.

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 8:40 PM GMT reply actions  

would love to see Pogba soon

to provide some drive in the center and perhaps a bit of creativity. Morrison might be a nice late sub if we’re chasing a goal with about 10-15 min left.

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 8:43 PM GMT up reply actions  

take off Diouf, move Park to the left with Pogba in the center with Gibson

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 8:43 PM GMT up reply actions  

If we didn't have to make the Fabio sub

I personally would have brought on Pogba & Morrison on

Hate Diouf & macheda. So awful

Take them off. Stick Morrison behind Berba. Shame the twins are sick notes

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 8:45 PM GMT up reply actions  

I'm fine with Kiko

He would have been better suited to start up top. Diouf is worse than Obertan.

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 8:46 PM GMT up reply actions  

I gotta little love for Kiko

For that goal he scored….

If that hadn’t have happened im not sure he would still be on our books

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 8:48 PM GMT up reply actions  

that's why I'm saying just make the Pogba sub now...

wait to see how everything plays out before using the final sub.

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 8:47 PM GMT up reply actions  

the back passes to Amos...

were awful. He should be screaming at his defenders. Amos handled them well.

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 8:48 PM GMT reply actions  

Ravel on for Berba

I’m guessing Berba came off because of that knock on his ankle.

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 8:52 PM GMT reply actions  

Oh Antonio, you should of had that.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:00 PM GMT reply actions  

And talking of direct

Did anyone see Oxlaide – Chamberlin against City last night

He was awesome

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 9:03 PM GMT up reply actions  

The guy was very impressive last night

The result of the match…not so much.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:05 PM GMT up reply actions  

Arsenal sure gave it a good go

Considering Arsenal played their boys and City their reserve (Aguero, Dzeko, Nasri… Shite players)

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 9:06 PM GMT up reply actions  

No your right they played good

I mean City scored towards the end so the kids were holding them off the scoresheet for the majority of the match. Sometimes it can’t always work out in your favor.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:11 PM GMT up reply actions  

I'd rather lose than face a replay

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 9:02 PM GMT reply actions  

Good chance by Morrison.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:08 PM GMT reply actions  

I was just about to type that

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 9:08 PM GMT up reply actions  

Ravel providing a big spark

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 9:11 PM GMT reply actions  

Pogba on for Rafa

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 9:11 PM GMT reply actions  

Hello Pogba

Lets hope for no more injuries

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 9:12 PM GMT reply actions  

Pogba coming in.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:12 PM GMT reply actions  

Twins Injury

Wonder how many games the twins have missed due to injury – everytime you turn around, one of them is hobbling off?

by eyc_9 on Nov 30, 2011 9:13 PM GMT reply actions  

As much as I like the twins, I was thinking pretty much the same thing earlier.

by Caviarhound on Nov 30, 2011 9:30 PM GMT up reply actions  

Shit

But what a goal.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:13 PM GMT reply actions  

an absolute screamer by Ambrose

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 9:14 PM GMT reply actions  

yeah so close.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:14 PM GMT up reply actions  

YES PK!!

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:15 PM GMT reply actions  

Absolutely

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:17 PM GMT up reply actions  

CCC

Cool – Calm – Composed

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 9:16 PM GMT reply actions  

well taken Kiko

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 9:16 PM GMT reply actions  

YEAH FEDERICO!!

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:16 PM GMT reply actions  

As in Fryers Ravel & Pogba

Not too impressed with the others. Amos has done his job. Dealt well with the Bpasses. Nothing he could do about the goal

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 9:23 PM GMT up reply actions  

Well were headed for added time

I thought United played a better game in the 2nd half than in the first. The game opened up more and they were creating more chances. Been very impressed by Pogba in the game so far.

Now lets put this game away!

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:44 PM GMT reply actions  

I think it’ll still be 0-0 even if Ambrose didn’t score..

We didnt looked like scoring expect for during the start of the game..

by dingmajiao on Nov 30, 2011 9:46 PM GMT up reply actions  

I agree about the score

But United had no chance on Ambrose’s goal. That was just a beautiful screamer. As for the chances, I don’t know I think we were creating chances but either the chances were wide or high or they didn’t have enough zip to get back the goalkeeper.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:49 PM GMT up reply actions  

park not doing a bad job at rb

might be better than the da silva twins…

by DHP on Nov 30, 2011 9:50 PM GMT reply actions  

He can do a job

But valencia was better

Park beem caught out of position two or three times

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 9:52 PM GMT up reply actions  

Damn it.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:56 PM GMT reply actions  

Damn it Macheda you should of had it.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:57 PM GMT reply actions  

Absolutely

Wasteful chance.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:58 PM GMT up reply actions  

Good save by Amos.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 9:58 PM GMT reply actions  

jesus macheda sucks

he should have been sold to serie a when he was on loan.

by DHP on Nov 30, 2011 10:01 PM GMT reply actions  

Jesus but apart from the penalty,

Macheda have been fucking useless.

by dingmajiao on Nov 30, 2011 10:12 PM GMT via iPhone app reply actions  

cann’t agree more

by bussal on Nov 30, 2011 10:15 PM GMT up reply actions  

fully earned by Palace

Kudos to them.

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by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 10:20 PM GMT reply actions  

+1

That goal was stupidly brilliant

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 10:20 PM GMT up reply actions  

Agreed

They played with a huge amount of confidence, despite the fact they were playing at OT. The goalkeeping was good, their defense was solid and there finishing was beautiful. I mean that goal by Ambrose was simply amazing.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 10:29 PM GMT up reply actions  

Hahahahaha.

We just lost to Crystal Palace…

by natepilling on Nov 30, 2011 10:20 PM GMT reply actions  

Yeah how bout that, sad huh?

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 10:23 PM GMT up reply actions  

Jesus Christ what a frustrating game

Words cannot express how i’m feeling right now.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 10:20 PM GMT reply actions  

yep, i'm getting annoyed with how this team been playing

Not finishing their chances and not playing with a sense of urgency. God they better not play like that this weekend againist Villa.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 10:23 PM GMT up reply actions  

Our finishing really needs to be sharper if we are to beat Given

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 10:24 PM GMT up reply actions  

Agreed, Given is a rock between

Certainly better than Tim Krul. Our strikers will need to be on the top of their game if they want to beat him. Plus Villa is far from a bottom feeder team team so well have to be on our toes for that match.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 30, 2011 10:27 PM GMT up reply actions  

That's is for me..

There’s no point keeping Macheda or Diouf if they’re not going to improve themselves..

by dingmajiao on Nov 30, 2011 10:21 PM GMT reply actions  

+1

That is a great observation Macheda is still the same player as when he burst onto the scene. He had to go

by Sweet science on Nov 30, 2011 10:23 PM GMT up reply actions  

Post-Match Reaction Thread is up

Vent there. Take out your frustrations there rather than on your loved ones, friends, or pets.

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