POST-MATCH REACTION THREAD: Manchester United 1-2 Crystal Palace | Carling Cup quarter-final
by Gene Um on Nov 30, 2011 10:38 PM GMT
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A year ago, it was a shock 4-0 away defeat by West Ham United in the Carling Cup quarter-final. This season, it is another shock defeat in the Carling Cup quarter-final -- this time by Championship side Crystal Palace at Old Trafford. And once again, the defeat is deserved. A mix of youth and experience was fielded by manager Sir Alex Ferguson in his starting XI. By the start of the 2nd half, two of the more experienced players -- Fabio and Dimitar Berbatov -- were off due to injury. United's final substitution was again used on an experienced player due to injury when Paul Pogba came on for Rafael. Nonetheless, it was a very poor and uninspired performance from Fergie's side. Palace defended bravely and took their few chances well and it is a famous victory for the South London club.
Youngsters Pogba, Ravel Morrison, and Zeki Fryers were able to gain valuable experience on this gloomy night at Old Trafford. Each had bright moments. Fringe squad players -- such as Mame Biram Diouf and Federico Macheda -- failed to show Fergie that they are deserving of regular playing time. Kiko took his penalty well and showed moments of fine play but his night was plagued by inconsistency. Diouf was simply poor and to put it harshly, he does not look to be United material. Chris Smalling and Antonio Valencia put in solid efforts. The former was class in defense while the latter was the focal point in attack.
What are your thoughts on this shock defeat? Are you gutted to be out of the Carling Cup again in the quarterfinal, or are you ready to shrug it off and focus on the other three more important competitions? What are your thoughts on the youngsters?
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More on the youngsters...
- Ravel was really bright during his initial 20 minutes… but he disappeared after that. I would have loved to see him take the game over in attack. Perhaps that’s a lot to ask from him but the opportunity was there.
- Pogba was okay… I wish he could have dictated the match more from the center though.
- Zeki was decent going forward but he was loose at times in possession.
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Pogba and Morrison maybe could use loan spells
Neither showed enough to be ready to step up to the first-team and get regular playing time. But both look good enough to earn playing time elsewhere on loan. Perhaps that is what each need to make the leap. This seems like a better way to develop them than the Reserves’ league.
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it did wonders for Cleverley
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Diouf
Seems like a good kid, works hard…. but he simply doesn’t have it.
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Agree with you..
Should have first time the pass at the end but he didnt even pull the trigger
Gibson
Rustiness could be expected…. he was better as the match wore on. But he’s simply a squad player for United at best.
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Evans was decent all night until he let Murray slip him for that winner
Kind of summarizes his United career….
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Valencia and Smalling were good.
Smalling was simply class all evening… I can only think of one misplaced pass. Valencia was the only player in attack who looked like he could open up Palace.
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Smalling were class..
Valencia was really good at the final 30 minutes..
But before that, he was too too predictable and drift way too central, when we needed width..
check out the Villa Q&A thread
provide some Q’s if you want… I’m sending the Villa thread Q’s in about 24 hours
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Are we the only team who's offside goals don't get counted?
I’m getting tired of the refs
I'm much more annoyed by a poor performance
That’s my focus
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Did a fan of the team with Chicharito on it really just whine about offside goals?
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by UZ on Dec 1, 2011 12:19 AM GMT up reply actions 1 recs
Would have been an easy run to the finals for you guys
I am not relishing Liverpool’s rematch against City. Liverpool’s run into the semi’s has been Stoke, Chelsea and now City, all away from home (well obviously the semis are two legged, or rather the semis are bipedal shall we say). Now we are wasting our players (or I assume we will be) on another set of tough matches when I would rather be focusing on the league.
So the point of my pointless post is, it’s only the Carling Cup. So you have no chance for the quadruple now, oh well. A treble is just as impressive although I’ll be rooting against it. The way things are going though, your treble will include the Europa League though. Sorry, not trying to rub salt in the wounds, but I couldn’t resist.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
People who live in Champions League glass houses at the moment should not throw stones.
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Europa league treble
At least we’l have to win the Premier league! Unlike Houlier’s boys who won the Mickey mouse cup, Fa Cup, and the Cup winenrs cup….
by Sweet science on Dec 2, 2011 1:19 AM GMT up reply actions
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