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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 3:02 AM BST up reply actions  

We'll...

Be gentle.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 3:08 AM BST up reply actions  

United starting XI:

Lindegaard; Rafael, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra; Young, Anderson, Nani, Giggs; Macheda, Owen

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 3:05 AM BST reply actions  

HERE WE...

GO!!!

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 3:08 AM BST reply actions  

Very cool to see...

So much support from the Seattle fans for their hometown team.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 3:11 AM BST reply actions  

I agree….that’s fantastic.

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 3:34 AM BST up reply actions  

cell phone photos

and possible shit quality…. I’ll sort through it and see if I have anything of interest.

Great atmosphere though

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by Gene Um on Jul 21, 2011 9:01 AM BST up reply actions  

Fernandez has some wheels

man, he came flying looking to get that ball away from Nani

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 3:11 AM BST reply actions  

I get the feeling that...

If Seattle keeps this pressure up, they’re eventually going to lead themselves open to the counter.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 3:13 AM BST reply actions  

Man. Giggs...

Tearing You Apart From Across the Atlantic!

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 3:19 AM BST reply actions  

Maybe not as young as he once was

but smarter

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 3:20 AM BST up reply actions  

I'm obviously not on your timeline of events....

but there was one Giggsy cutback that made everyone in the crowd go “ooooooooooooooo……..ohhhhhhhhh”

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by Gene Um on Jul 21, 2011 9:03 AM BST up reply actions  

Yeah

He actually made a couple of cuts up against the sideline in front of the benches that left the Seattle players looking foolish

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 12:32 PM BST up reply actions  

OWEN!!!

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 3:22 AM BST reply actions  

Evra got pushed big time

Could the ref still have given him a yellow?

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 3:31 AM BST up reply actions  

I'm sure he could have

but he didn’t even play advantage

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 3:33 AM BST up reply actions  

I would think so

The ball rolls and bounces differently. Plus FIFA really hasn’t approved it.

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 3:27 AM BST up reply actions  

I think it's on a case-by-case basis

Outside of the MLS clubs that have it and whoever plays at the stadium in Moscow the Champions League final was in a few years ago, I can’t think of any other places that really have a full-blown turf. Certainly there are some hybrids out there.

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 3:32 AM BST up reply actions  

Seattle fans ROCK!

Wow, it’s hostile for United there….Seattle have great fans.

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 3:30 AM BST reply actions  

it really is a vociferous bunch

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by Gene Um on Jul 21, 2011 9:04 AM BST up reply actions  

Commentators

I have to say the commentators have been pretty good so far. I try to watch MLS but don’t ususally get too far without losing focus.

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 3:32 AM BST reply actions  

Nani getting space

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 3:44 AM BST up reply actions  

Love Nani.

I don’t understand why some people still think he is expendable.

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 3:45 AM BST up reply actions  

Certainly fun to watch. But i get aggravated when he can’t see an open player and takes a shot instead. He should be getting better at that this year if he’s reviewed film. The guy creates so many chances.

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 4:00 AM BST up reply actions  

He is the most frustrating fun I have.

Still my favorite player is Valencia.

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:15 AM BST up reply actions  

b/c we're embarrassing deep in the wide areas

but Nani is world-class…. and we don’t win title #19 without him last season

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by Gene Um on Jul 21, 2011 9:06 AM BST up reply actions  

So close.....

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 3:37 AM BST reply actions  

Macheda almost put that one in at the far post

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 3:37 AM BST reply actions  

Very strong in the air, I didn’t think he has good positioning, still he got it off.

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 3:41 AM BST up reply actions  

Lindegaard!!!

Two big saves!

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 3:45 AM BST reply actions  

CARLING CUP IS SERIOUS BUSINESS

Look what happened after the Gooners lost the Final to snicker Birmingham City

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 3:54 AM BST up reply actions  

Lol

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:13 AM BST up reply actions  

What up guys!

Good times here in Seattle!

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by Gene Um on Jul 21, 2011 3:59 AM BST via mobile reply actions  

Hey! You lucky...

Bastard!!! =)

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 4:13 AM BST up reply actions  

DIOUF!

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:14 AM BST reply actions  

DIOUF!!!

I keep saying that he’s a good option!

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 4:14 AM BST reply actions  

I'm not saying they aren't

I’m just saying we shouldn’t write Diouf off as expendable

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 4:17 AM BST up reply actions  

ROOOOO!!!!!

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 4:16 AM BST reply actions  

ROONEY!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:16 AM BST reply actions  

Double tivo options.

Still got the Man U game on playback. I think Uruguay is gonna win. I liked them before, based off their great world cup showing, but was not sure they would get past Argentina.

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:19 AM BST up reply actions  

Geez, I get on the phone...

With The GF for five minutes and we’re up by 3 now???

Insane. Nice shot by Wazza.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 4:19 AM BST reply actions  

Pleae rememeber that

and save some of that magic for 2011/1012

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 4:20 AM BST up reply actions  

In fact, I've missed...

All three goals live tonight.

Maybe that will be my curse/United’s reward this season???

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 4:22 AM BST up reply actions  

if thats so

please…… go….. just gooooo!!

by Sweet science on Jul 21, 2011 10:46 AM BST up reply actions  

PENALTY KICKS AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is the theme of the Copa this year

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:20 AM BST reply actions  

Man, I cannot get behind...

These new away kits.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 4:21 AM BST reply actions  

Might as well call us Inter Manchester.

They are ok. I liked the white road ones from last year.

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:22 AM BST up reply actions  

Those were...

Nice, agreed.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 4:22 AM BST up reply actions  

Not to stir the pot

but don’t Citeh’s away kits look almost exactly like ours (except for the League Champions patch, of course)

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 4:24 AM BST up reply actions  

Yeeeesh

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:24 AM BST up reply actions  

Man, it's a f**kin' football...

Jersey. Stop trying to make a fashion statement and make something clean, sharp, and easy on the eye.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 4:24 AM BST up reply actions  

Lol

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:25 AM BST up reply actions  

like my girlfiends
clean, sharp, and easy on the eye

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 4:26 AM BST up reply actions  

I got Copa on TV

Real Madrid on ESPN3 and Man U on record. Soccer overload.

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:21 AM BST reply actions  

I kinda like that call

It’s not the long drawn out one

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 4:29 AM BST up reply actions  

I like both.

But I agree with you that this one is better. Plus this announcer is hysterical.

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:31 AM BST up reply actions  

Ho ho, Paraguay...

Is up 3-2.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 4:32 AM BST up reply actions  

ROONEY AGAIN!!!!

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 4:33 AM BST reply actions  

So good. So...

Very, very good.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 4:34 AM BST up reply actions  

PARK!!!!

Gene is in South Korean heaven right now!

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 4:35 AM BST reply actions  

Holy shit! 5 to...

Zip!!

Park scores and I’m sure Gene is losing his mind, haha.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 4:36 AM BST reply actions  

ROONEY!!!!

HAT TRICK HERO!!!

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 4:37 AM BST reply actions  

When United plays the "big" MLS teams they play their best.

They crushed the All Stars last year.

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:37 AM BST reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

WAZZA WITH THE HAT TRICK!!!

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 4:37 AM BST reply actions  

Be as unbiased as possible.

Who would you guys rate as the best footballer in the EPL??

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:42 AM BST reply actions  

Too vague

But if I was starting a team tomorrow and I could choose the first player out of everybody. I’d go Fabregas.

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 4:45 AM BST up reply actions  

Vidic

I’d take him over Fabregas any day

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 4:48 AM BST up reply actions  

Cesc has youth.

Shame he is heading back home. Does Barca even need him?

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:49 AM BST up reply actions  

Nope

They don’t need him

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 4:53 AM BST up reply actions  

Wazza

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by Gene Um on Jul 21, 2011 9:10 AM BST up reply actions  

Titus Bramble!

I think I have to go Rooney, just because he is so rounded and offers us soo much. No one I can think of does that in England. Scorses and creates and a fantastic work ethic.

Modric
Drogba
Tevez
Vidic
Van Persie
Fabragas
Gerrard when fully fit

by Sweet science on Jul 21, 2011 10:53 AM BST up reply actions  

Some pushing and shoving.

We do not need anyone injured lads.

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:44 AM BST reply actions  

Ando

Get you’re game ready NOW. We need a good start from you..

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 4:49 AM BST reply actions  

Gotta give credit to the Seattle fans.

They are getting whacked and they sound like they are up 6-0

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:52 AM BST reply actions  

Obertan!

United over the Seahawks Sounders by a touchdown!

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 4:53 AM BST reply actions   1 recs

Isn't that like the first thing they teach goalkeepers?

Never pass the ball across the front of an empty net?

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 4:56 AM BST up reply actions  

up 7-0 no less

this is the kind of crap we’re going to have to live with these days….we’ll miss VdS for sure.

by dorsal on Jul 21, 2011 4:57 AM BST up reply actions  

Ben Amos

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 4:59 AM BST up reply actions  

Nevermind

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:59 AM BST up reply actions  

meh, he's 3rd string

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by CPC on Jul 21, 2011 4:59 AM BST up reply actions  

TOUCHDOWN!!!!

It is good to have the NFL back!!! Wait it is only July????

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:55 AM BST reply actions  

Well...........

I think Rooney is fit and ready for the season. Nani looks ready. I am ready.

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by Mateo9399 on Jul 21, 2011 4:57 AM BST reply actions  

Well, obviously this game wasn't close,

but I gotta say that the first half was really good soccer/football. Osvaldo Alonso had a chance to show that he is just as good at distribution regardless of the opponent, and the Sounders got some decent shots on goal.

I don’t really want to talk about what happened when we put in our reserves and you put in one of the best goal scorers in the world. If nothing else though, it did drive home a fact that we already know. We REALLY need to get a new keeper to replace Keller when he retires at the end of the season. Boss is just not going to cut it.

Sounders 'til I die

by SounderJunkie on Jul 21, 2011 6:32 AM BST reply actions  

Cheers

Ozzie was fantastic and showed himself well

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by Gene Um on Jul 21, 2011 6:42 AM BST up reply actions  

Agreed. That...

First half was a lot of fun.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jul 21, 2011 2:36 PM BST up reply actions  

Great night

it was great being in the stadium and seeing PARK SCORE! ahhhhhh!

I even somewhat missed you all :)

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by Gene Um on Jul 21, 2011 6:44 AM BST reply actions  

Seattle’s defense is astoundingly bad! They seem to just bunch up and run toward the guy with the ball, leaving one or more players completely unmarked in or around the box. Even so, Rooney’s finishes were awesome… As were the away kits!

Also, Michael Owen might want to consider finishing his career here in the states, judging by his scoring tally in these preseason matches.

"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"

by Useful_Idiot on Jul 21, 2011 4:45 PM BST reply actions  

If you're referring to the second half defense,

I do hope you realize that they were all reserves. The full backs aren’t even full backs. The RB is a converted F/M and the LB is a converted M. Neither have ever even seen a minute of time at the FB position in an MLS match, much less against the likes of United. And those CBs are third stringers AT BEST. I wouldn’t read too much into it. Yes, Rooney was very clinical in his finishes, but I would hope one of the best strikers in the world could finish against a 3rd-5th string MLS defense.

As for the first half defense, only half that line was the first team. The #1 CB and LB are injured. So what you saw was a first team right side and a second team left. They held their own for what it was.

This is the problem I have with these friendlies. Other than the distraction from title runs, they don’t really do much for competition or to raise awareness. For those that don’t watch MLS, all they see is a 7-0 score and just assume that MLS sucks and that United is ready to win their next title. It doesn’t really provided any real competition for United to gauge where they are. And it doesn’t really turn non-MLS followers into fans of the league nor shed a positive light on the league.

And for us (realistic) MLS fans, even though we don’t really expect to win against a United, etc.., once the second half subs come on it’s really just pointless. At least when the starters are on for the first half it’s an enjoyable match to watch and there is always the possibility that we can indeed win.

If we’re gonna keep doing these I’d like to see them treated like a “real” match. Let the starters go 90 and only use limited subs. Even if we lose, it’ll at least even out these lopsided scorelines and provide for some real competition for the visiting clubs that are in their preseason. It will keep fans engaged. And non-MLS fans will get to see what this league is really like and maybe even come to like it.

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by SoundersRiot on Jul 24, 2011 7:36 PM BST up reply actions  

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