Is Danny Welbeck the latest player to demand unrealistic wages?
by Sweet science on Jan 19, 2012 12:03 PM GMT
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The Daily Mail has a story on the contact negotiations of Danny Welbeck. According to the article, Welbeck, who is currantly earning £15,000 a week, is being offered £40,000 a week by the club. This, up untill recently seemed agreeable from Welbeck's side, however the club has now been taken back by the players demand of £60,000 a week.
United are keen to reward the England striker, who earns £15,000 per week, with a new deal. Sportsmail exclusively revealed last year how Welbeck had begun negotiating with the club over a treble-your-money contract worth £45,000-£50,000 a week.
But the player and his advisers are now asking for £60,000 a week, which has left United officials astonished.
Obviously, contract negotiations with young players have been in the news recently. Both Ravel Morrison & Paul Pogba have earnt less than flattering headlines with their demands. However Welbeck, unlike the other two has established himself as a regular starter in the United frontline, ahead of Dimitar Berbatov and even Javier Hernandez (Chicarito).
His partnership with Wayne Rooney has played a big role in this. I for one think this is our best partnership at this moment in time. With Welbecks athletic ability and willingness to run behind the defense and Wazza's tendency to play in the hole and pull the strings, it suits are play.
So is £60,000 too much? Or £45,000 too little for an established first team member? On this occasion I think we should bow to his demands. The striker is out of contract at the end of next season and I think it is important we tie down a long term contract with the minimum of fuss. We don't want a case of giving our rivals a sniff of tapping him up and running his contract down. His performances have been too good this season to run that risk.
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50,000 per week + bonuses would be a nice mid point imo..
At best, I’ll give him 55,000 per week + bonuses.. I don’t really like the club being bullied into this kind of situation..
It’s just his first full season with United as well..
In my ignorant opinion, it all boils down to his role with United from this year forward. If Welbeck is to be among the starting 11, then go for the 60k. I assume he won’t be included in such a list though (He will be continue be an off the bench guy and cup starter). With this in mind, United should work with his agents and get that number closer to 50k. Part of his would require United to cash out on Berbatov (displays backing in Welbeck indirectly).
- Catch ** Should Welbeck light the EPL on fire for the rest of the season, then by all means give him what he asked for.
He has started 12 of 21 premier league games for the club......
and that is despite a long injury layoff. There is no way he is viewed by the club as only a cup starter or sub. As Sweet Science noted in the write-up, he’s first choice ahead of Berba and Chicarito right now.
Call me crazy....
But I think that, after Rooney, Welbeck has the best combination of youth and talent of the current strikers on the team. I don’t mean to disrespect Chicharito’s season last year, but I feel like Welbeck is a more complete player. Welbeck is bigger and stronger, holds the ball up better then Chicha. He is also a better passer of the ball than Chicha. Chicharito had an amazing run of goals last year, but if he isn’t scoring, his usefulness on the field goes way down because his other skills are not so polished, as we have seen this year. Welbeck is a great young player and isonly going to get better with more experience. Unless we plan on buying another striker (which would be ridiculous, considering the more pressing needs), I believe Danny Welbeck is indispensable and we must keep him, even at 60k.
by Amen Amachigh on Jan 19, 2012 2:39 PM GMT via Android app reply actions
Good stuff
I love me some Chica, but as you say, unless he is scoring he brings nothing.
Good job he scores a lot of goals
by Sweet science on Jan 20, 2012 12:55 AM GMT up reply actions
If Andy Carroll gets £80,000 a week
then Welbeck has a point. Just saying.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
But Carroll is clearly overpaid
A better comparison would be Daniel Sturridge IMO. His current deal is 60 a week, with talks to have it increased/extended to 90.
Welbeck probably isn’t quite at the same level, but considering their similar ages and talents, I’d say 55 or even 60 a week isn’t unreasonable.
I was being very sarcastic
I know Andy Carroll is ridiculously overpaid. It is hard to convey sarcasm through writing alone.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
you need the sarcasm font.
But I agree that the right approach here isn’t “give him whatever he wants to keep him happy”… if you do that he’ll ALWAYS just want more. The right approach is to price out what his talent is actually worth on the market (because other teams would be foolish to pay him much more than that), and try to work out some kind of home-town discount from there to help the club out.
With the way homegrown players have been getting paid lately I don't think 60k is unreasonable at all.
Man City and Chelsea have certainly skewed the wage structure of the Premier League a bit, but with the resume Welbeck has and the fact that this contract will likely cover his best years I think he’s being perfectly reasonable. Danny Sturridge got that much on less of a track record and Welbeck is reasonably close to the end of his contract. Like Rooney last year, United just let this contract run down too far and gave the player all the leverage.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 19, 2012 9:17 PM GMT reply actions
It makes me wonder if United are commited to him a major part of their future
I’m not saying he is right to ask for that, but I think you are spot on that if this contract is going to take him through his best years and United plan to lean on him, then it certainly isn’t too unreasonable.
Perhaps both sides would be better off with £45,000 plus incentives.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
Something a few of you have mentioned is incentives
Forgot about that. I like the idea of maybe 50K and then some…… add on’s
Still…. what a bunch of greedy bastards footballers are :)
For a first year player, Welbeck's demands are excessive
Yes he has been playing great this campaign but I would like to wait another year for him to see if he can repeat this before giving him that type of cash.
Now come next year if he is still playing at the level he is playing now by all means pay that man his money. To me Welbeck is a all around player because of his scoring touch, his pace and his athleticism and the perfect compliment for Wayne Rooney. He deserve to be like a top level talent if game stays the same.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Jan 20, 2012 5:54 AM GMT reply actions
Agree with you on this.. 1st full season at this level shouldn't give him that much leverage to claim for so much..
I’ll take 55k+ with incentives at best.. If he wants more, he’s plain greedy imo.. (Though agents play a part as well)
But if we leave it another year
He will have less than 6 months on his contract. We need to sort this out now
by Sweet science on Jan 20, 2012 1:40 PM GMT up reply actions
You forget
That Welbeck was on loan with Sunderland last year and he was one of the two best players on the team, if not the best. So this is not his first season of playing well in the Premiership. I’d say that after playing well at Sunderland, and then making the jump in quality this year and playing well with ManU, the boy has proven himself.
by Amen Amachigh on Jan 20, 2012 4:46 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
1st year players really shouldn't be starting that season with less than 2 years remaining on their contracts
It’s just poor management from the club. If the player has any success at all his value is going to skyrocket and he’ll have all the leverage in a negotiation. United got backed into a corner when they allowed Rooney’s contract to start to run down, they seemingly haven’t learned from that mistake with Welbeck, Morrison, and Pogba all having a ton of leverage. For all the thing United do well with youth development they haven’t managed these contracts well.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jan 20, 2012 5:55 PM GMT up reply actions
Good post
You would think David Gill should have this kind of thing under control
by Sweet science on Jan 20, 2012 6:11 PM GMT up reply actions
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