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Manchester United Player Ratings Against Arsenal

LONDON, ENGLAND - JANUARY 22:  Antonio Valencia of Manchester United (R) celebrates with team mates as he scores their first goal during the Barclays Premier League match between Arsenal and Manchester United at Emirates Stadium on January 22, 2012 in London, England.  (Photo by Mike Hewitt/Getty Images)

This is something I am going to try & make a regular thing here. Pretty much what it says on the tin. Rate the players, 1-10, on their performance's during the game. Here are the ratings against Arsenal

A score of 1 being the lowest (Bebe standard), 10 being the highest (Messi like) A score of 6 will be standard, 7 is solid, a very good game will get an 8, 9 is good for outstanding and 10 is unplayable. 10's will be very rare. Not only will they have to play the game of their life, but it will usually come against a team of good quality or in a big match (FInals, championship deciding game's etc.)

Anything less than a 6 is sub par and they should be doing better.

Anders Lindegaard - Was solid. Not much more you can ask for than that from a keeper. Claimed the high balls well and was a good presence at the back. The goal he let in wasn't unsaveable, he got a hand on it, but it was still a good finish. On a good day he might have saved it, but it wasn't as though it was a major mistake or anything. 7/10

Phil Jones - DIdn't get himself into the game before he went off injured. Can't really give a score on that N/A (Twisted Ankle)

Chris Smalling - Very good performance. Dealt with every cross that I can remember and commanded the back line well, Really was a dominating figure at the back and him and Evans kept Van Persie as quiet as they could up untill the Dutchman's goal. If he can perform like this week in week out, he will soon be first choice, even when Nemja Vidic & Rio Ferdinand are fit! 8.5/10

Jonny Evans - Didn't have quite as good as game as Smalling IMO, but that is nothing to be ashamed of. Always got bullied in the air last year but his ariel prowess is now a strength, as highlighted by his 5/6 ariel duals won. 7/10

Patrice Evra - Was fantastic going forward, but then how hard can it be when Nani was tearing Djourou apart? Was also solid at the back too, although he still got skinned at least once easily when one on one, a part of his game that has let him down a few times this season. Still, he is deserving of an 8/10

Star-divide

Antonio Valencia - Came up against a good opponent in the returning Thomas Vermallen, but really got the better of him. I shudder to think what he would have done against Miquel if Vermallen didn't make the game. Grabbed the opener with a back stick header, and provided the winner with a good dribble and pass to Welebeck. 8.5/10 My M.O.T.M (Also switched to RB when Rafael departed)

Ryan Giggs - Done a good job I feel in the middle of the park. Grabbed the assist for the first goal with a delicious cross with his left peg. Really couldn't have placed it onto Valenica's head any better. 7.5/10

Micheal Carrick - Put in a good performance. Kept the ball well with a 91% pass completion rate. Also put in 6 tackles. He also had a slight knock in the second half that limited his movement somewhat. 7/10

Nani - Johan Djourou must be having nightmares. Nani gave him hell and the Swiss defender was subbed at half time. However for all the great positions Nani found himself in, he lacked an end product. One effor I particulary remember on goal was a tame near post effot that was saved easily. With his talent he should be doing better than that. However he is good for a 7/10 Subbed during 2nd half (Knock)

Wayne Rooney - Had a quiet day at the office. He also blatantly dived which I was not happy about. He did look threatening in attack but didn't really deliver. Done well linking the play from deep and as ever, worked hard for the team. 6.5/10

Danny Welbeck - Has really grown this season. His link up play, his ability on the ball, and the fact he can control the ball under pressure has meant he is first choice for now. Scored the winner, but should really have put the game to bed sooner. Needs to work on finishing his chances to really cement his place, not only for United, but also for his England aspirations. 7.5/10

Subs

Rafael- Came on for Jones early on and didn't let the team down. Lots of energy down the right. Got booked and that led to him being subbed late on to avoid further punishment. 6/10

Paul Scholes - Came on for Nani and his floated pass to Valencia led to the winner. Didn't do much of note other than that 6/10

Ji-Sung-Park - Again, involved in the winner. Played a one two with Valencia and his willingless to get himself involved means he is always a handy sub to bring on. 6/10

Im not really one for over analysing a game. These ratings are based on my opinions of the game, having only watched it one time. For example, Jones played for longer than Scholes & Park, but didn't recieve a rating. That is because I can't remember him being involved at all, apart from being injured, through no fault of his own.

Feel free to offer your own opinions. Have I been to harsh? To Generous? I want to hear from you!

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Their best player IMO was Chamberlain. I’d give an 8

Djourou…. A generous 3 maybe…..

by Sweet science on Jan 23, 2012 7:21 PM GMT reply actions  

3 is really generous

i thought The big german had a good game or them

by ulcerrator on Jan 24, 2012 8:03 AM GMT up reply actions  

hmmmm

I thought he was ok. He cleared Welbecks scuffed shot off the line. End of the day Arsenal were lucky to concede just two if it wasn’t for are lack of clinical finishing & pooor final balls

Mind you, Van Persie missed a sitter too so we were lucky not to concede earlier. Swings & Roundabouts

by Sweet science on Jan 24, 2012 2:53 PM GMT up reply actions  

1 = Bebe-like?

I think there are worst players than Bebe imo in United history…

by dingmajiao on Jan 24, 2012 5:23 AM GMT reply actions  

Yeah but....

He’s just Bebe……. He’s shit :)

I did consider Djemba Djemba :)

by Sweet science on Jan 24, 2012 2:53 PM GMT up reply actions  

too generous

too many 8s or above imo. the only player who deserved it was Valencia imho.

"I’m going to probably fade to black,’’ he said. "To be honest, I’m not a showman guy. I’m going to fade to black. I don’t know what I will do. I’m an idealist. I have a high drive and I’m very determined. Fade to black, man, like evaporate.’’

by TheBigFive on Jan 24, 2012 8:52 AM GMT via Android app reply actions  

Only 3, which is pretty well justified imo...

Smalling was a rock with Valencia.. Evra pretty strong going forward though I’ll say he’s around 7-7.5, so it’s not that bad..

by dingmajiao on Jan 24, 2012 10:44 AM GMT up reply actions  

This is just implicitly using the familiar A B C standard. 80 is an A (Canadian system), 90 is an A+, 10 is 100%. 7 is a B (good game), 6 is a C (meh, did ok) 5 is a D, below is fail.

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Jan 24, 2012 2:07 PM GMT up reply actions  

Welcome

I stand by my Smalling score. He was fantastic all game IMO. A clean sheet would have bumped him up a little more too

Evra was fantastic on the front foot. Maybe a 7.5, but I plumped for 8.

Have to remember that this was a victory against Arsenal, at Arsenal. A very important win for us. Scores would have been slightly less against a Wigan or Bolton at home….

by Sweet science on Jan 24, 2012 2:50 PM GMT up reply actions  

overall he was good

but he did have that error or should I say he slipped where Arsenal really should have scored. Its football not basketball, one mistake from a defender can cause the entire outcome of the game and I say that slip almost caused the game.

"I’m going to probably fade to black,’’ he said. "To be honest, I’m not a showman guy. I’m going to fade to black. I don’t know what I will do. I’m an idealist. I have a high drive and I’m very determined. Fade to black, man, like evaporate.’’

by TheBigFive on Jan 24, 2012 6:28 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions  

Good point

But he really was excellant at dealing with crosses. If it was not for his solid work elsewhere, we might have conceded more. Also, he kept Van Persie really quiet IMO. I know he scored but he did nothing in builiding up the play

Still, can’t really argue with you, just a slight difference in opinion :)

by Sweet science on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 PM GMT up reply actions  

As this is a first attempt, the scoring standard may change

Very much going to be a work in progress kind of thing.

And of course it is very subjective, so scoring will vary inevetably.

by Sweet science on Jan 24, 2012 2:59 PM GMT reply actions  

Good luck with these.

As I’m sure you know, I’ve being doing these all season over at Anfield Asylum and the amount of crap I get for some of the ratings is surprising sometimes. It makes me wonder if I am watching the same game as everyone else. Actually, it is usually over one particular player whom everyone wants to succeed, but looks like has looked like crap every day since he arrived. You know, the guy who isn’t on my Christmas Card list.

Just like you did, I just call it like I see it. Some people can’t take that I guess and grade players on what they want them to have done rather than what they did.

"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly

by Bromantic on Jan 25, 2012 7:08 PM GMT up reply actions  

I didn't know tbf

I will take a look when I get half a chance…..

If you do yours before I do mine for tomorow’s clash, I will link yours in my article (or I will fanshot it). Feel free to do the same with mine mate.

Thing is with scoring…. It is very subjective….. Not only on how the players perform, but on how you actually score the players. So I don’t mind being critisized, as long as the critisizm comes with reason’s on why the poster feels the need to….. well critisize.

I do expect some stick with these, as I do feel as though I have an opinion or two and if I feel it needs venting… I will vent some!!! Good job I have thick skin :)

by Sweet science on Jan 27, 2012 7:38 PM GMT up reply actions  

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