PLAYER RATINGS: Liverpool Vs Manchester United
Here are my ratings for the Liverpool cup clash. For the Liverpool ratings, click here to be directed to Anfield Asylum, and Bromantic's take on the Liverpool performance.
A score of 1 being the lowest (Sebastian Savic standard), 10 being the highest (Messi like) A score of 6 will be standard, 7 is solid, a very good game will get an 8, 9 is good for outstanding and 10 is unplayable. 10's will be very rare. Not only will they have to play the game of their life, but it will usually come against a team of good quality or in a big match (FInals, championship deciding game's etc.)
David De Gea - A really poor game. His last game was against Blackburn, where he screwed up a cross, mis-reading the flight of the ball. Here, he was too pre-occupied with Carroll and ended up failing to make a proper attempt at saving the header from Agger. He just wasn't set. Flapped at several crosses after that, failed to take a firm command of his area all afternoon. Could have done better with the 2nd goal too in my humble opinion. Made some decent saves, but nothing that any profesional keeper would have had too many troubles with. 3/10
Rafael - My man of the match. Showed a real desire and hunger to win the ball, something that was lacking slightly from others, especially in a game against Liverpool. Won many 50-50's including one against Steven Gerrard where he wasn't favourite to win the ball. Steamed up the right hand side to win the ball and put in a cross for our equaliser. 8/10
Jonny Evans & Chris Smalling - I have decided to mark these two together because I can't really separate them, and I don't want to end up repeating myself. Kept Carroll quiet for the majority of the game, but done De Gea no favours for the first goal. Gave him no protection. I liked Smalling's composure on the ball, but it has been two weeks in a row where his slips has almost cost a goal. Evans keeps proving the doubters wrong. Nothing either could do for the second goal IMO - 6.5/10
Patrice Evra - Performed well all afternoon apart from the second goal. Should have tucked in which would have left him in a perfect position to intercept Carroll's flick on. A really sloppy mistake that undone all of our hard work. 5.5/10
Antonio Valencia - Started the game well and hit the post early on after a direct run toward the penalty area. In the second half he was far less direct and this helped Liverpool contain are attacks. He is most dangerous when running toward the byline. Too bad he had his back to goal or was shown inside far too often - 6/10
Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs & Michael Carrick - Im going to do the same with these three, because when Scholes was on the pitch, they really dominated the game. They often formed triangles and with help from Park who flitted in and out of the centre of the pitch, gave no chance to Liverpool to get foot on ball for any sustained period of time. Carrick was astute as ever in breaking up the play, with both tackles and interceptions. Giggs (Probably the most in-effective of the three) was taling up some good positions, and Scholes was the magician. His passing was superb and he controlled the tempo of the game. Then he was taken off for Hernandez. (Scholes, 8/10)
We switched to 4-4-2 and all of a sudden we couldn't get near to Liverpool, even the more suprising because Gerrard was taken off at a similar time. There seemed no energy and we had no foothold in CM. Bellamy became a good outlet for them and we couldn't get off the backfoot at all. Carrick and Giggs became a non entity for the last 25/30 minutes. Carrick 6.5/10 - Giggs 6/10
Ji Sung Park - Played well. Worked hard and got stuck in. His footballing brain is under rated IMO. He can play so many positions and gets involved. For instance yesterday he was often appearing in the centre to help win the ball. Nani could learn from his off the ball runs too. one of which resulted in him arriving late unmarked to finish the low cross from Rafael with aplomb. 7.5/10
Danny Welbeck - Not his greatest game. Didn't work hard enough in closing down the defense IMO, and struggled to keep hold of the ball. Had a good but difficult chance in the second period but after rounding Reina he was dispossesed by Skrtel. Was given a hard task in playing up top on his own at Anfield. 5/10
Subs
Chicarito - Poor when he came on. Couldn't make the ball stick and is still too easily pushed off the ball. Couldn't link up with Welbeck at all well. Feeds off of service, however his arrival and subsequent tactical change to incorparate him stifled any service he may have had. 5/10
Dimitar Berbatov - Came on just after we conceded the second. Had no chance to influence the game at all. N/A
It wasn't a bad performance. But the change to 4-4-2 killed us. And I still feel that, had Anders Lindegaard been between the sticks, we would have won, or at worse still been in the hat for the 4th draw, and looking forward to the prospect of beating Liverpool at home twice in one week.
Again, as bitter as it feels to lose to Liverpool, we now need to focus on the League. That starts against Stoke in midweek. Early indications are that Rio Ferdinand will be back, as well as Wayne Rooney and Nani
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I was actually down on Evra more than de Gea.
Evra got beat for the winning goal with some just horrendous positioning but even prior to that appeared off his game. He appeared to force the issue whenever in possession and was unable to beat Martin Kelly/Stewart Downing on multiple occasions. I got the impression he was trying to prove something to the Kop. Evra would get a 3 from me (4 without the mistake at the end).
After the mistake by de Gea on the goal, I thought he tightened up actually. There was one shaky moment where he didn’t know if he could pick up a ball that came through the defense but that is all I can remember. I would give him a 5 on the day.
I thought he done alright
He wasn’t up to his standard of his Arsenal performance, especially going forward, but Downing really did well to double up on him, and with Park playing in front of you, it is harder to create a decent overlap IMO.
As for De Gea, he did some things well….. But that doesn’t justify his mistakes. Carroll also had a header after the second I think, that was lucky not to go in.
Basically, what do you look for from a keeper…. Command of his area, he didn’t do that….. Shot stopping, Both goals were preventable….Kicking and distribution…… Probably his strongest asset yesterday…. Sorry, that doesn’t come close to cutting the mustard at this standard im afraid
by Sweet science on Jan 29, 2012 5:16 PM GMT up reply actions
de Gea "Does not cut the mustard"
Hi Sweet :) Have you watched the second goal again mate, the ball was driven hard by Kuyt right down at de Gea’s ankles, almost making it impossible for him to stop it with anything other than his own feet.He almost did that in kicking it away.
As you highlight Evra was to blame for his lack of defensive duties in defending the goal.
So why so hard on a youngster.
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Tell me please, if you dont think he is going to “cut the mustard” what do you suggest we do with our 20 year old Spanish international goalkeeper?
Here is what I said
Basically, what do you look for from a keeper…. Command of his area, he didn’t do that….. Shot stopping, Both goals were preventable….Kicking and distribution…… Probably his strongest asset yesterday…. Sorry, that doesn’t come close to cutting the mustard at this standard im afraid
So don’t twist my words into saying that he won’t cut the mustard. I have always said he will be a fantastic keeper, it is just getting him there. Right now, his performances don’t cut the mustard.
For the second goal, I would be very dissapointed in any keeper letting in a goal that close to his body. You have to get something behind the ball. If you look at De Gea, he didn’t make himself big. He fell down in almost a straight line, thus giving little chance of getting a part of his body to the ball.
What do I suggest we do about him. Play him in the Europa league. That way, he won’t be challenged in the air like he is in the PL. He can get his confidence back in his excellent shot stopping abilities (Which, despite yesterday, he does possess). In the meantime, he needs to hit the gym so he has the self confidence to come and claim the ball under challenge
by Sweet science on Jan 29, 2012 9:25 PM GMT up reply actions
I'll give De Gea a 4.5/5
First goal was awful but defender was wrongly positioned..
It should have been defender-striker-goalkeeper and you sandwiched the striker in between..
Second goal was imo something he could have saved, but nothing wrong about him..
Also, new rule.
When you go to another site to link your work, put the address for the site you want to go to in the URL portion. That makes it work better.
Well done on these, as always.
When you go to another site to link your work, put the address for the site you want to go to in the URL portion. That makes it work better.
Had a complete brainfart. That was what I intended to do, then forgot to link it :)
by Sweet science on Jan 29, 2012 5:11 PM GMT up reply actions
Don't worry.
I took care of it for him. Apparently it takes a Liverpool fan do get it right.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
Just Remember
The goal keepers have been subjected to much rotation, they don’t know if they are in or out.No fixed back line, injuries with-in the midfield defensive line up.
No other team would have been still in the ’Title ’ chase with what we have had to endure.
I think its a credit to our manager our squad and the fans.
I support Manchester United .All the players at my club.
LUHG.
No other team would have been still in the ’Title ’ chase with what we have had to endure.
Arsneal’s excuse for the last 5 or so years too I guess…..
I support all the players at the club too. That doesn’t mean I can’t critisize when I see chinks in the armour. For instance yesterday Fergie messed up on several counts.
by Sweet science on Jan 29, 2012 9:27 PM GMT up reply actions
Pray Tell
Christ we have our manager tell us high one.Were did he mess up on?
I have an idea, you apply for the job at Old Trafford, not Jose Mourhino.
Sweet Science is the new boss. Hail hail, the new leader.
How did the team do when he took off Scholes yesterday?
How did we do when we went to 4-4-2
What had Anders Lindegaard done to deserve to be dropped?
by Sweet science on Jan 29, 2012 9:40 PM GMT up reply actions
Agreed
Taking off Paul was a mistake. the whole game changed, the emphasis of control.
Mind to some he is just a " fill in" a stop gap.Give me a break.
As I said Sweet if you read what I write, the rotation of the goalkeepers is the worst part of this.
I just dont like ’scape- goats at United, we are doing this of recent.To me its not United.We stick by our players our club.
I thought he have to take off either Scholes or Giggs
But took off Scholes since he’s the one with less fitness, but he chose the wrong option by placing a striker instead of a midfielder though..
Btw, I disagree with Sweet’s opinion that we would have won if Lindergaard’s is between the sticks though..
Toddle pip.
A great blog. Was interesting comunicating.
Dont knock United’s youngsters there is always some-one ready to pounce.
Cya
RedScot
I think this blog is a rather tame one.. One reason I love this place..
We see lots of Carrick-praising, Park-praising, De Gea-praising (during that great month of performance) and even Evan-praising..
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I have no idea what the hell is being said this thread
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Its been taken care of.
This isn’t the first time this issue has arisen.
This was the first one, post edit by me. Not sure if you saw it in its full glory:
http://www.thebusbybabe.com/2012/1/16/2711947/give-us-your-questions-arsenal-q-a-edition
nope, looks like I missed it
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