LIVE THREAD: Newcastle United vs. Manchester United
by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 7:00 PM GMT
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MUFC starting XI: Anders Lindegaard; Phil Jones, Rio Ferdinand, Patrice Evra, Antonio Valencia; Ryan Giggs, Michael Carrick, Park Ji-sung, Nani; Dimitar Berbatov, Wayne Rooney
MUFC bench: David de Gea, Jesse Lingard, Javier Hernandez (Chicharito), Danny Welbeck, Rafael, Paul Pogba, Anderson
NUFC starting XI: Tim Krul; Fabricio Coloccini, Michael Williamson, Davide Santon, Danny Simpson; Yohan Cabaye, Cheik Tiote, Jonas Gutierrez, Ryan Taylor; Shola Ameobi, Demba Ba
NUFC bench: Steve Harper, James Perch, Haris Vuckic, Sammy Ameobi, Gabriel Obertan, Hatem Ben Arfa, Leon Best
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According to ESPN:
Man Utd team: Lindegaard, Valencia, Evra, Carrick, Jones, Giggs, Rooney, Nani, Welbeck, Hernandez, Berbatov.
Newcastle: Krul, Simpson, Coloccini, Williamson, Santon, R.Taylor, Cabaye, Tiote, Jonas, Shola Ameobi, Ba.
that lineup was false, it's been corrected
that lineup was suicidal
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although it's changed again...
Lingaard on the bench and either Rafael or Fabio on bench… I would guess Rafa but who knows.
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Now it's showing:
Lindegaard, Evra, Ferdinand, Jones, Valencia, Giggs, Carrick, Park, Nani, Rooney, Berbatov
Bench
De Gea, Anderson, Welbeck, Pogba, Chicharito, Rafael and Jesse Lingard
Anyone know who Jesse Lingard is?
The only time Iv heard of him
Is on my football manager game that I got for Xmas
Can’t even remember where he plays
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 7:50 PM GMT up reply actions
They're saying midfield
I’m not too worried, I’m sure he won’t see the pitch
Yup, that was 1st update
I have the team sheet on this post.
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 7:48 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Wonder if we'll use a back three...
Like we did in the 1st half vs Wigan. Valencia pushed up as a winger while Nani had a free role between the lines
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 7:51 PM GMT via Android app reply actions
Might be hazardous against Ameobi and an in form Ba ba ba
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 7:52 PM GMT up reply actions
3v2 though
You keep the fundamental spare,man advantage while pushing back their wingers. You can only use 3 in the back vs 2 forwards
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 7:56 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
But then they could hit us on the break
I like it. But We need to control possesion in a big way. Also, Rio has to have a big game
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 7:57 PM GMT up reply actions
I dont think they'll do it with Rio...
but thats what allowed us to have a possession advantage. We created overloads all over the pitch
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 8:01 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
First time de Gea has been dropped...
and not rested since Fergie stated last week de Gea would start this match
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 7:57 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Good point
Just saw his pre match interveiw. He said De Gea has made a couple of mistakes in the Blackburn game and that is why
Definatley dropped
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 7:58 PM GMT up reply actions
Interesting
Nani on the right and Park on the left
I would have switched them to give Valenica a little protection
Big chance for Newcastle Ba misses his kick
started with Carrick losing out to Tiote in the challenge
Linegaard takes a nice catch to end the danger
A bit too sharp for Rooney on the rebound
It came quickly at him though
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 8:13 PM GMT up reply actions
Bad bad cross from such a good position.
by dingmajiao on Jan 4, 2012 8:17 PM GMT via iPhone app reply actions
He's looking less sharp today.
by dingmajiao on Jan 4, 2012 8:23 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
Disagree
Anything in the box and Chica snaffles it
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 8:24 PM GMT up reply actions
Nani hasn't got much change out of Santon so far
Actually both full backs from Newcastle have done well
(Hopefully I have just put the kiss of death on both)
This match is so scrappy that it’s frustrating to watch. There’s no flow to the action, one way or the other.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
I think a neutral would be loving it. A furious tempo to the game. And getting a little heated too.
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 8:32 PM GMT up reply actions
Cross after cross after cross. That’s the extent of our creativity right now
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
That would be fine if there was any kind of quality on the crosses
But no. They have been lacking
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 8:38 PM GMT up reply actions
I think Welbeck must be getting warm at half time
Rooney tends to play better when he is on the pitch
I started watching at about the 15th minute and I swear to god I had no idea Berbatov was even on the pitch until you just mentioned it
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
Rooney's much much more disappointing than Berba atm.
by dingmajiao on Jan 4, 2012 8:44 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
Rooney has at least linked up a couple of times and gothimself in a good position
Berba has been non exsistant
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 8:46 PM GMT up reply actions
Wazza has the touch of Andy Catroll today
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 8:49 PM GMT via Android app reply actions
*Carroll
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 8:49 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
He caused City a few problems last night
If Kompany hadn’t have been at the back Liverpool might have nicked something
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 8:55 PM GMT up reply actions
Guy next to me at this pub I'm at...
“Gotta love Geordies. I don’t feel as fat, ugly, or obnoxious whenever I see one”
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 8:59 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Rooney’s touch is awful and he’s getting no help from Waldo- wait, I mean Berbatov- who I still can’t find on the pitch.
Also, we’re getting overrun in midfield. Again.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
The fact were getting overrun in MF
Is worrying considering we now have Carrick and Giggs instead of Rafael & Park
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 8:56 PM GMT up reply actions
Carrick gets more love on here than he deserves, in my opinion. He’s a very good midfielder at times but whenever we play a team with considerable speed he’s absolutely hopeless. He’s a stellar passer when he has a lot of time, but when defenders press him he struggles.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
He doesn't get more love from me
I appreciate him, but not to Gene or Ding’s standards
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:03 PM GMT up reply actions
But I also think you are being a little harsh on him
He’s not useless, but he hasn’t had a good game by all accounts
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:03 PM GMT up reply actions
I never said he was Xavi
But he is a good player, although not great. The biggest reason I started writing about this sport was because of too much lazy analysis out there. The Carrick hate is lazy and thats why I defend him so much. I also call him out as well when deserved, its ceetainly not a blind appreciation
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:07 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Spraking of lazy pundit and fan analysis...
BOTH OF THESE GOALS ARE SOMEHOW DE GEA’S FAULT!
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:08 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Well if he wasn't so shit on Saturday
He wouldn’t have been dropped
If he hadn’t have been dropped he would have saved both of them….. :)
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:10 PM GMT up reply actions
Any player struggles when pressed...
But team like Barca and Spain have an entire team of passers that collectively alleviate pressure. Pepe gave Xavi fits last year during of the Clasicos when he was continually closed down. Another point people fail to mention…
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:11 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Looking at how tight Ameobi is on Carrick off the ball.
He just can’t really find any space for himself in this game.
by dingmajiao on Jan 4, 2012 9:14 PM GMT via iPhone app up reply actions
Not every player struggles to this extent when pressed. You hope that your midfielders can move around enough that a defender can’t simply dart towards him when he has the ball. Carrick is too much of a statue. He’s a great passer when teams allow him to be a statue, but otherwise he really can’t do much.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
I can agree with some of that
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:21 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
on the bench
No doubt will come on if we still need a goal with about 20 mins left
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:04 PM GMT up reply actions
Jones took Ba out there
gets a yellow card. Deserved
But a good foul to give away. At least he didn’t let him run like Blackburn
Saw this on Twitter...
United might finally get what they paid for… Nothing
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:15 PM GMT via Android app reply actions
He was starved of service...
What the fuck was he supposed to do?! Cant just judge him in isolation
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:18 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Did he go and gethimself involved of the game
Already Welbeck has had a positve affect on the game
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:20 PM GMT up reply actions
Not fair
Of course he’s involved, we’re down 2-0 for fucks sake. You think we’re gonna play with the same god damn tactics?!
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:23 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Ok
We just had out best 5 minutes of the match
Would that have happend with Berba on the pitch?
No. Berba had to be sacraficed for the good of our game.
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:24 PM GMT up reply actions
Jesus fucking christ
The fucking changed going down 2-0. I hope he would be fucking involved. How the fuck do you know Berba wouldnt be involved?! You dont ARGHHH
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:27 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Sinbce when does Berba chase down Balls???
Since when does he run in behind defenders?
I know he doesn’t do these things because I have watched him play for our team for the last three and a half years?
Whoose taken the jam out of your doughnut? :)
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:29 PM GMT up reply actions
He did four fucking days ago...
And I was sure to point it out then because assinine comments like this are said
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:31 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Well he sure as shit didn't do it today
And Welbeck has
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:32 PM GMT up reply actions
Your chasing your own tail here now
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:32 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Huh
No im not
I think you are being overprotctive
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:33 PM GMT up reply actions
Talk about the simplest cause & effect analysis you could apply there
I got a headache. A dog just walked by. That dog must have caused my headache. Same logic in that diagnosis
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:29 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Now your being predantic
See my anwser above
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:30 PM GMT up reply actions
HE ISN'T AN IDEAL PARTNER FOR rOONEY
I’d rather Rooney on than Berba
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:21 PM GMT up reply actions
who had a poor game too
(Risking the wrath of Gene when I say that)
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:27 PM GMT up reply actions
ando for rooney
never thought i’d ever see that
Howard should get involved more in attack
I mean, that goal clearly shows what happens when he makes an effort. He’s as lazy and off and on as Berba
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:41 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
hahaha
Look Berba has his plus points. I don’t think he works well in attack with Rooney. They have some good days. But this is certainly not one of them
I don’t care what he done on Saturday, he did not look to get involved. He didn’t look to close down, nor stretch their defence. He had to be subbed.
I suggest that when you go home you lock yourself in your room and don’t talk to anybody. Just hit the bottle then hit the pillow. Prehaps you will wake up in a better mood :)
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:44 PM GMT up reply actions
Chicha just isn’t the same player this year, is he? Weird.
"I'll drive the bus to make this team." - Petr Sykora, 2011
Constant injuries
Made it a bit tough to find consistent form I suppose. I think his goal rate is decent still though
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:42 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
He'l be back
At least he is willing to close down (hhahahaa :)
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:44 PM GMT up reply actions
Il try not to poke the bear with a stick
Couldn’t resist
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:45 PM GMT up reply actions
Europa League
Maybe our best chance at a trophy
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:54 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Were only three points behind City
The League isn’t an impossibility
And we will get SMalling and Evans back very soon which will help us greatly
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:55 PM GMT up reply actions
Welebeck
Great run. Shame he didn’t have the touch of Berba (Seeeeee… I can say nice things about him)
Have we even had a decent opportunity tonight?
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Tremendous goalkeeping there by Krul
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:46 PM GMT via Android app reply actions
We have been outplayed in every area of the game
As simple as that
+1
All the individual battles have been won by the men in stripey shirts
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 9:48 PM GMT up reply actions
fergie is gonna fuck someone up
in the dressing room
Away to bot Citeh and Arsenal is next too...
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:55 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
FUIUUUUIUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKK!
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by Gene Um on Jan 4, 2012 9:57 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Think Il drink the rest of the bottle of whiskey
That I left after New Years
Which wasn’t a lot granted
Hasn't this run of shit results coincided in you being an author here?
Consider this your dis-invite.
Ha
After tonight I think Gene might sack me :)
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 10:02 PM GMT up reply actions
Listened to the 2nd half on the radio and got home just in time for the own goal.
What a freekick that was by Cabeye!
The first goal wasn't too shabby either
Jones had a bit of a nightmare tbh
He done some things quite well but he isn’t good enough in the air just yet to cope with the Ameobi’s of the world
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 10:05 PM GMT up reply actions
We just got owned
To be fair, Newcastle played very well. It’s kind of cool to see them back near the top of the table after the mess they were in recently.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 4, 2012 10:02 PM GMT via iPhone app reply actions
It would be kind of cool
If they hadn’t just dicked all over us
by Sweet science on Jan 4, 2012 10:04 PM GMT up reply actions
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