POST MATCH REACTION: Manchester United 2 - 1 Liverpool
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 3:37 PM GMT
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Right, I am going to get this out of the way first. Suarez didn't shake Patrice Evra's hand. It was a dumb move by the Liverpool striker.
Lets move on
A tentative first half which almost dragged was followed by a quite brilliant start to the second. For the second game in a row, Rooney took the game by the scruff of the neck and slotted home twice within the first five minutes of the restart. A corner that was flicked on by Liverpool's Jordan Henderson was volleyed home with force by Wayne Rooney. Wazza then captilized on Valencia's pass, after the Equadorian had dispossesed Jay Spearing in their own half.
That man Luis Suarez grabbed a late consolation for the scowsers, captilizing on a failed header from Jonny Evans, after the ball had bounced off of Rio Ferdinand. David De Gea made a good late stop from a good strike from Glen Johnson, who was possibly Liverpool's most consistant threat during the game.
At the final whistle, I loved how Patrice lapped up the warmth from the Old Traffod crowd. Shame he has been usless for the last two weeks. One hopes now that he won't play Liverpool again this season, his form improves. Fergie shows no sign of dropping him.
The first half was littered with mistakes. Micheal Carrick and Paul Scholes, at the heart of the Manchester united engine room, gave the ball away far too many times. And Ryan Giggs didn't have his best of afternoons. Antonio Valencia was giving one of the leagues better left backs all kinds of hell though. And the link up play between Wayne Rooney and Danny Welbeck was a joy to behold. Although the latter's play in the opposition box let him down just a little. Too many times he wasted possesion in good positions, although I can't be too displeased with the youngster. His build up play, his holding up of the ball, and first touch were all a class act. Just needs to wise up a little more in front of goal.
Rooney was the man though. When nerves might have began to set in, he was clinical. He took his two goals very well, and should have had a third, but skewd his shot wide.
The defense were solid for the most parts, but still at times they lapse in concentration. The goal for instance. Jonny Evans, who was sublime in my opinion throughout, went up for a header from a Charlie Adam free kick, leaving the ball to bounce off of Rio and into the path of Suarez (that nice bloke Luis). We have a habit of shooting ourselves in the foot and we need to cut that out if we want the title. We really were cruising at 2-0 and should have had more, but at 2-1, a mistake then could have cost ud dearly.
All in all, a good day at the office. Rooney came to the party once again and claimed the three points for us. The moment of the day was probably Rafael climbing above Andy Carroll to win a header. Wow.
And finally, on Luis Suarez. He really is a tool. He was acting as though he was the victim all game. And also, didn't Evra claim that he did not think Suarez was a racist? Our man tried doing him a favour! Unbelievably stupid, and we are lucky the situation didn't esculate beyond all proportion.
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same for me
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Got to agree
Great finish on the first goal and a wonderful attack for the second goal. Second would be Valencia. The man was all over the pitch making good passes, making things happen and most importantly forced a turnover that led to Rooney’s second goal.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 3:47 PM GMT up reply actions
Fergie on Suarez after the match...
“Suarez is a disgrace to Liverpool Football Club and should never play for them again.”
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I'll have the statistics & post-match quotes up in about an hour or so
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another good one from Fergie...
“Liverpool have had a player banned for eight matches and they’re blaming Patrice Evra. I know who they should be bloody blaming.”
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Gotta love the gaffer.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 3:48 PM GMT up reply actions
Oh God
Why is everyone making Evra out to be the victim? Let’s get on with it.
Suarez has the right to not shake his hand.
You guys will surely take offense but really let the whole thing go. Suarez did nothing to provoke Evra today.
We had a shitty display today. Congrats on the win. LFC have bigger problems than a snubbed handshake!
by NC Nole on Feb 11, 2012 3:57 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions
LFC have bigger problems than a snubbed handshake!
You certainly do!
And to be honest, I don’t think he did have the right not to shake his hand. It is a rule that the players shake hands before games. If anything, Evra should have been the one not shaking his hand!
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 4:04 PM GMT up reply actions
spot on
It is a rule that the players shake hands before games. If anything, Evra should have been the one not shaking his hand!
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It is not a rule
It is a tradition. I’ll weigh in on this briefly later.
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by Bromantic on Feb 11, 2012 4:26 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions
respect campaign
I believe it is one of those traditions that is almost dictated by rule
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 4:27 PM GMT up reply actions
context
I believe it is one of those traditions that is almost dictated by rule
Yup. Not that Suarez is one to show any respect for rules/laws/tradition/sportsmanship/decency. What a fucking disgrace that man is.
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This isn't the first handshake snub
And won’t be the last. In fact they cancelled the handshake in the recdnt QPR Chelsea game.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
by Bromantic on Feb 11, 2012 4:33 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions
they did
and because the matter has been dealt with in terms of punishment, I can see why they did not cancel it for today. Suarez just decided to be a cunt.
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And this one wasn't cancelled
Even so, What has Evra done to Suarez? He even said he didn’t believe Suarez was a racist. That was a complete lack of respect.
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 4:35 PM GMT up reply actions
I only pointed out the cancelled one to show that this is merely tradition
not by any means a hard fast rule.
I don’t like how Macca and Darke were proposing scrapping the hand shake though either. It is a tradition that should stay. No reason to scrap it because of this crap.
My thoughts are posted below. Feel free to tell me where you think I’m wrong.
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easy fella! :)
fancy having to join this blog to post a message?!
And yeah…he should have shaken his hand, but Evra kind of lost a lot of the high ground with that stuff at the end. Which I missed, incidentally – I left 5 mins before the end. You were better.
I actually Have no filter.
haha
I guess this saves me from going through BLH’s posts to find your name :)
I agree with your post down on the bottom. We were the better team, we just had to find a way to break you down.
Having said that, I will take a win over Liverpool any day of the week, no matter how it comes
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 7:32 PM GMT up reply actions
Why is everyone making Evra out to be the victim?
Another gem
Being called a Ne*** is not victim worthy?
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 4:14 PM GMT up reply actions
let's move on
Context, cultural differences etc.
This has been discussed to the point of overkill
by NC Nole on Feb 11, 2012 4:17 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions
Your the one who brought it up
By coming in here and saying Evra is not a victim and Suarez didn’t do nothing to provoke him and didn’t need to shake his hand.
When he start saying outrageous statements like that, people will call you out on that. You can’t just say move on because you want to avoid talking about something you brought up.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:09 PM GMT up reply actions
Dosen't really seem like it
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:12 PM GMT up reply actions
I guess you guys are right Luis could have put this all behind him with a simple handshake.
My immediate dissatisfaction with LFC clouded my judgement.
Gene consider this my hand extended for a shake.
Good match for Wazza you guys deserved 3 pts
Copy and Pasted from Nc Nole
We have moved on
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 5:14 PM GMT up reply actions
Fine I guess
I said what I needed to say and the poster admitted he was wrong.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:16 PM GMT up reply actions
Thank you.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:17 PM GMT up reply actions
How is Evra not the victim?!
It’s probably a poor decision to even respond to this ridiculous comment.
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This is an open forum you don’t have to respond I am congratulating your club for 3 deserved points.
We have a difference of opinion let’s move on.
personally I think a Suarez Evra hug would have been best. I am sad Suarez didn’t go that route.
by NC Nole on Feb 11, 2012 4:25 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions
"This is an open forum you don’t have to respond"
And no one is forcing you to post in here. If you don’t like what people are saying you don’t have to post here. Just sayin.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:11 PM GMT up reply actions
I literally laughed out loud when I read this
This is just asinine.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 4:22 PM GMT up reply actions
I honestly can’t believe the way LIverpool’s front office, players and fans support Suarez through all of this. The way they have and continue to disgrace themselves is shocking- you’d think people would have a sense of self awareness and personal shame.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 4:21 PM GMT up reply actions
I agree 100%
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Its pretty ridiculous
Even if you don’t agree with the ruling….as a rational human being, you can’t defend suarez’s actions today. Suarez made it impossible for people to move on from the issue. Just dumb.
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 11, 2012 4:28 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Everton 2, Chelski 0
Pretty good day haha
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 11, 2012 4:29 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
I guess you guys are right Luis could have put this all behind him with a simple handshake.
My immediate dissatisfaction with LFC clouded my judgement.
Gene consider this my hand extended for a shake.
Good match for Wazza you guys deserved 3 pts
by NC Nole on Feb 11, 2012 4:54 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions
cheers
- shakes hand
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Internet handshakes are good...
but I wish an internet pint had the same effect on my brain chemistry as a real-life pint
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I guess you guys are right Luis could have put this all behind him with a simple handshake
That’s the response I wanted to see!!
And cheers.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:15 PM GMT up reply actions
I don't mind the support
A club should support it’s players. It’s when they come out wearing Suarez t-shirts and covering yourself in glory that I have a massive problem with LFC.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:12 PM GMT up reply actions
Dalglish
He’s simply just embarrassed himself again after the match. He also refused to come out for the post-match press conference
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He's probally curled up in the fetal position with his Suarez t-shirt on
Because of that, he’s too busy to talk to the press.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 3:48 PM GMT up reply actions
Wazza for me..
Nearly went for Evra though.. =D
If he wasn't so god damm awful
I might have
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 3:49 PM GMT up reply actions
the sentimental pick for some I suppose
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Yeah....evra was terrible
You’re right about SAF not looking like sitting Evra down any time soon….I guess we have to hope for Evra to get injured?? Just kidding…kind of lol
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 11, 2012 5:15 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Hopefully he addresses the problem at season's end
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 5:16 PM GMT up reply actions
Jordi Alba please
or a Fabio that doesn’t break
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Alba
A 22-year-old left-back that could end up being a regular on Spain’s national team soon. He’s a great fit for us in my opinion… in the most general description, he’s a solid defender and he can really get forward.
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Sweet
Plays for Valencia?
They have had cash problems in the past? Any word on transfer fee?
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 5:32 PM GMT up reply actions
Yes on Valencia, not sure on the transfer fee
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also yes on the cash problems
they do well though to get a good price on all of the fine players they’ve recently had
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He hasn’t looked the same for the past season and a half now, by my estimation.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 8:01 PM GMT up reply actions
I think there's better pictures of Suarez..
There’s one after that header where he’s so FUGLY!!!!
good for them
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Jamie Redknapp probably thinks that’s unsportsmanlike
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 4:23 PM GMT up reply actions
Oh my god were you listening to him at half time
Rio should have been sent off???
Fuck off you plank
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 4:24 PM GMT up reply actions
I love how Gary Neville just laughed at him.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 4:25 PM GMT up reply actions
so he should
Jamie Redknapp is experienced in his role, far more than G Nev. But G nev is impartial. Redknapp was full of bias
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 4:31 PM GMT up reply actions
I saw that and I applaud them for doing that.
If Suarez won’t shake Evra’s hand, why should Rio and Danny do the same to Suarez?
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:22 PM GMT up reply actions
We do what we want
Ahhh yes…smell that Scouser dysfunction. 100 million pounds spent, same spot on the table as last year. Gotta love it :)
MOTM, its Rooney imo. So clinical in front of goal right now, he effectively ended the game in ten minutes. My other two guys were Valencia and Rafael. Valencia rebounded nicely from his mediocre showing against Chelski, great to see. And Rafael plays the game the way I want a defender on my team to play. He’s getting more experience and sophistication, but I hope he never loses his fire. I love that kid.
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 11, 2012 4:22 PM GMT via Android app reply actions
100 million pounds spent, same spot on the table as last year. Gotta love it :)
Actually, one spot lower in the table :)
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WHAT A WASTE OF MOOOONEEEEEY
Everybody sing! Lol
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 11, 2012 4:25 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Rooney was great today, it’s so nice to see him in top form again.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
Not only is he providing goals
He is providing class in build up, as well as the desire, which will never leave him. Brilliant
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 4:26 PM GMT up reply actions
a true talisman
We are so reliant on his ability to create chances for others, create chances for himself, and his work-rate
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what a discovery he's been
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I think we should take a look at him
He’s brilliant
Plays like Bale
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 4:29 PM GMT up reply actions
I never thought I'd hate a footballer more than Cuauhtemoc Blanco
but then Luis Suarez entered into the picture and surpassed him.
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a vile human being
a former Mexican national team player.
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Imagine if...
There was a player that looked completely unathletic and slow. Then imagine that, in sore if host physical deficiencies, he slayer managers to score against you. Then imagine that this same player looks like the Hunchback if Notre Dame. That is Blanco.
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Ian McGarry (BBC) tweet:
I think there’s a doubt if Suarez or Dalglish will still be at #LFC next season. People who own the club are not impressed by their conduct.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
Well at least someone at Liverpool has some sense
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 4:42 PM GMT up reply actions
who do you think grabs 4th?
Chelsea or Arsenal? Or Newcastle??
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oh boy
I would love it (Love it (Kevin Keegan)) if they grab 4th. I think they will come agonisingly close. I think Arsenal may just shade it.
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 4:56 PM GMT up reply actions
I still think Chelsea snags 4th
But man, what a job Pardew has done at Newcastle. I remember thinking Hughton was screwed over but clearly I was wrong (well, maybe Hughton was still treated poorly). Pardew’s signing’s — and getting rid of certain personalities — have been astute and this really may be the story of the Premier League over the past year or so.
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Agree on Hughton
He done a top job, but Pardew has been different class
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 5:03 PM GMT up reply actions
4th spot really is up for grabs
Hell, even Liverpool may sneak in (I bloody hope not though :)
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 5:19 PM GMT up reply actions
I think Liverpool is a decent side
but they don’t grab the full 3 points enough… especially at Anfield
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Unfortunately neither can I
Too Many Draws. That should be the title of any book documenting Liverpool’s last 7 or 8 years.
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I still can't get over at how many times they tie there
I can understand if this was happening on the road, but on their own pitch? That’s discouraging if I was a LFC supporter.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:32 PM GMT up reply actions
Well I knew the Magpies would be decent this year
They came to Columbus to play a friendly againist my beloved Crew and just seeing them being very astute on defense and aggressive on the attack made me a believer in this team. I know that a streach to base a opinion on how a team will do based on one meaningless game, but in that game I saw the talent in that team (except in goal since Tim Krul didn’t play).
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:31 PM GMT up reply actions
I saw United in Seattle this summer
and they crushed my Sounders 7-0 haha
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So the Sounders were underpreforming in friendlies as well?
I kid Gene.
Must of been a game you’ll never forget, Manchester United gracing your team’s pitch. Were you a neutral observer in that game or were openly cheering for one of the teams?
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:36 PM GMT up reply actions
United captured my heart as a kid
so they’re my team. But I was a ball-boy for the Sounders (A-League at that time) as a kid and I regularly attend their matches now so I’m definitely a huge supporter.
It was amazing when United was here. I got a chance that week to hold the Premier League trophy, meet Bryan Robson and Paddy Crerand, attend a closed-off training session, and see my favorite player (Park Ji-sung) score in person. It was all incredible for me.
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Wow not that's a moment you'll treasure forever
Not only did you get to see your team play in person, but got to hoise the PL trophy and meet various United players (partically Captain Marvel).
I know one thing, if United does a pre season tour in the states again and they come to a MLS city near me (the Crew would never have the funds to bring United in) i’m going because it’s one thing to watch them on TV, but seeing them in person if a expierence you’ll never forget.
You and me are basically the same when it comes to the teams we root for. Like you I have been following United for as long as I can remember. Watching players like Beckham, Cole, Scholes, Ronaldo to name a few made me a supporter for life.
I have only been a Crew supporter since 2009 but i’m a diehard. Despite the fact that C-Bus is 3 1/2 hours from my home i’ve been a full STH since 2010 and i’ve been to various road games (including your hometown of Seattle and this summer Portland)
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 6:03 PM GMT up reply actions
we were in stadium at the same time then in Seattle!
I was at the Columbus game. My favorite Sounders game I’ve attended is the 2010 US Open Cup final vs Columbus :) — such an electric atmosphere that night
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we were in stadium at the same time then in Seattle!
We probally were. The game I went to in Seattle was in 2010. The match ended in a 1-1 draw. The Sounders struck first, but my man Steven Lenhart leveled the game right before halftime. It was a great game but the weather was lousy with it being cold and rainy and 51 degrees.
I’ll be back in Seattle when I go on vacation to Portland this summer, i’ll be taking the train up to see the city.
I remember the Open Cup final game, the Sounders won 2-1 and I was shocked the only Crew goal came from Kevin fucking Burns. Thought we were going to win it but it wasn’t meant to be. I’m glad the rules were changed to make every MLS team eligible for the tourney. Plus I like that they changed the rule that changes how teams bid for home games. Now the Sounders will actually have to go on the road to possibly win a USOC game.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 6:17 PM GMT up reply actions
pfft
If United ever plays the Earthquakes, I’m sure San Jose would at least be able to keep it at a respectable (not really) 5-0 scoreline…
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by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 8:08 PM GMT up reply actions
my boy Joey Gjertsen kept Gareth Bale quiet two summers ago!
even if he wasn’t directly matched up with him… but he was on the same side of the pitch!
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Joey Gjertsen > Maicon
Discuss.
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by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 9:34 PM GMT up reply actions
Arsenal, mostly because Van Persie is having the season of his life. Also, they’re simply not as bad as they were at the beginning of the season, especially once they get Wilshere back.
Chelsea, on the other hand, is a complete mystery to me. I have no idea why they’re struggling like they are. Maybe it’s just that the core of their team is getting old? But still, they have plenty of young or semi-young talent.
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by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 8:06 PM GMT up reply actions
RvP
Hands down, easily the player of the year at this point. Arteta has settled them down as well. But man, fourth would seem hopeless if RvP went down with an injury.
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"But man, fourth would seem hopeless if RvP went down with an injury"
I’ve been thinking the same thing all year. If something ever happened that RVP got hurt and would be out for a lomg period of time that team is screwed, because he’s the only played that consistently scores.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 8:50 PM GMT up reply actions
"especially once they get Wilshere back"
I read in the Daily Mail a few weeks ago that Wilshere suffered a setback in his rehabilitation and there’s a good chance he misses the rest of the 11-12 campaign. No your right, Arsenal isn’t that bad as people make them to be. There not great but they got good players in RVP, Ox, Walcott, Vermarlen, Schzheny, Ramsey and Arteta to keep them in the hunt for the final CL spot.
As for Chelsea, I think age is catching up with them as their top guys like Terry, Lampard and Cole are all or close to being 30 and AVB has not been tatically great with this squad so that could be the reason why. Although they do got some good young talent in Cahill and Sturridge. Hope I answered your question properly.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 8:59 PM GMT up reply actions
Wilshere could be gone for the whole season? That sucks, losing a young star for that long to injury is one of the most disappointing things to deal with as a fan.
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by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 9:33 PM GMT up reply actions
Yeah it is (I know this from expierence with the NHL club I follow)
And even if your not a fan of the club he plays for, if your a fan of the national team you would be disappointed by the news simply because Wilshire is one of the best talents around and a key piece for the England squad.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 11:16 PM GMT up reply actions
Couldn't agree more
Love Jacky boy and the Ox (Chamberlain)
The performances Wilshire put in against Braca last year were unbelieavble
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 11:25 PM GMT up reply actions
I'm going to tell you something Science
I’m becoming a bit of a fan of the Ox. I don’t care what team he plays for but as a fan of the game I like watching him play. He’s got a good scoring touch, he’s athletic and provides alot of energy for Arsenal. He’s a asset for whatever team he plays for club or national team.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 11:36 PM GMT up reply actions
He is so direct when he recieves the ball
Kind of like Valencia is at the moment. His first thought is to make moves toward the goal and that causes defenses problems
And he has an abilty to pick out a finish or a final ball. Theo Walcott wishes he had this kind of ability
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 11:38 PM GMT up reply actions
Too much to reply to regard the handshake heard round the world.
Or rather, not heard. So I’ll share my thoughts in a separate post.
I don’t like what Suarez did at all. It was stupid and classless. Shaking hands would have likely put the incident behind us and we all could have moved on for the most part. Now this will linger forever, or at least a long time.
That said, Suarez was well within his rights not to shake his hand just as Wayne Bridge was as well and as was Rio when he snubbed Suarez. Suarez still proclaims his innocence and believes that Evra is the source of his ‘villianhood’ in the EPL. If you hadn’t committed a crime (again, I don’t believe he is innocent, but he does), would you honestly want to shake the hand of the person that accused you? Of course not, you would likely be extraordinarily bitter.
Second, Evra is not at all innocent in everything that happened today. Evra tried to take the high road initially by forcing the handshake, but at halftime it sounds like he found himself wallowing in Suarez’s muck. If that man didn’t want to shake your hand, what on earth would make him think that he would want to talk to him at halftime? Forcing a conversation in the tunnel was obviously only going to lead to one thing. (This is all based on what I have heard of the accounts of what happened in the tunnel at the half).
I had no problem with Evra being pumped about the victory or running around the pitch to celebrate (even though I didn’t think he played well again for you guys). What he did by running in front of Suarez and doing it 2 feet away from him again means he clearly lowered himself to Suarez’s level. You are all on here talking about how a hand shake should be gentlemanly and Suarez is a twat for trying to spin this up, but then would defend or not knock an action that was clearly only done to incite Suarez and Liverpool. It’s quite hypocritical in my eyes.
Again, I can’t defend Suarez’s action today, but you shouldn’t be super proud of Evra either.
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+1
Fantastic post. Two assholes well being assholes.
by NC Nole on Feb 11, 2012 4:57 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions
+5
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 8:59 PM GMT up reply actions
Can't believe that some people are defending suarez.
Football is the worlds greatest SPORT. Suarez had a chance to bury the hatchet and make today be about just the game but instead he decided to be an immature high school girl and be completely unsportsman like. I never really had that much respect for Suarez but now i certainly have zero for him, LFC and ofcourse Queen kenny.
It would be a great thing if next season niether Queen kenny and suarez were around.
I agree
All he had to do was shake Evra’s hand and this whole mess is buried and it didn’t even had to be the best around. But no he chosed to be a poor sport and not take the high road and as a result Suarez’s name will be in the papers in a negative way for weeks and this is all on top of the bad press he got for kicking Scott Parker.
As for Dalglish, I never cared for him since he came out with the players for warmups againist Wigan wearing a Suarez t-shirt, basically covering himself in glory. Managers are supposed to set a good example for his or her players and by wearing that shirt shows that he’s at the same level as his players which is not good.
But honestly Suarez goes before Dalglish. Kenny has proven to be a good manager and thus he’ll get some leeway. Suarez could be expendable if shit like this continues espically if it starts to effect the team’s preformance on the pitch.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 11:21 PM GMT up reply actions
I don't agree with all of this
But I respect Bromantic’s opinion on this. He’s spent a lot of time trying to logically think about this matter.
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Evra definitely could faber handled himself better as well...
….any discerning United fan knows that he’s no angel either.
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 11, 2012 5:03 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Evra is certainly debatable
even Fergie felt he was over-the-top after the match. For me though, I was fine with it. I can’t say I’d have done any differently. If you imagine walking in his shoes these past few months, I can’t fault him for his release of emotions today.
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+1
I think it wasn’t his best move… But I would have still done excatly the same probably…. I guess I am not an angel either (Despite what my mother tells me)
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 5:08 PM GMT up reply actions
I am an angel
Despite what my mother tells me
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I don't really liked Evra's celebration..
Over the top for me. Do it if it meant we won the league.
I give him a pass for the shit that went down
This was a huge day for Evra, a day where he finally got his vindication and probally can move on. I can let it slide just because of the circumstances.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:38 PM GMT up reply actions
No need to celebrate like that though..
Like what Bromatic said, 2 wrong doesn’t make 1 right.. It’s a dig at Suarez which can be avoided.. (Though I enjoyed the moment .)
But reflecting back, it’s not a good thing to do..
Well with all the shit went down I gave him a pass
Anyother time I would be in agreement with you, but on a day like this, Evra celebrated the way he did because a load has been lifted and he got his vindication.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:53 PM GMT up reply actions
let's not equate the two matters...
one is certainly worse than the other.
Personally, I’m fine with Evra’s actions after the match. If that’s an indictment on me, then so be it… I can own up to that. Who knows what happened in the tunnel at half-time though….
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wait
His vindication wasn’t giving up the goal to Kuyt in the FA cup.
Sorry I had to say that.
Both Suarez and Evra were assholes. He doesn’t get a pass IMHO. Suarez gave him a chance to be the bigger man.
by NC Nole on Feb 11, 2012 5:49 PM GMT via mobile up reply actions
Suarez gave him a chance to be the bigger man.
Too bad that all could of have been prevented if Suarez would of been the better person and shaked Evra’s hand.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:53 PM GMT up reply actions
Again
not to sound like your mom, “but two wrongs don’t make a right”
I’m not denying that what you said is correct, but it still can’t be used as an excuse to act like a jackass.
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I've discussed in full
It’s time to move on.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 6:20 PM GMT up reply actions
Great win for Everton
Good to see them playing attractive ball and putting the ball in the net.
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 11, 2012 5:06 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
You are all on here talking about how a hand shake should be gentlemanly and Suarez is a twat for trying to spin this up, but then would defend or not knock an action that was clearly only done to incite Suarez and Liverpool. It’s quite hypocritical in my eyes.
But would the “celebration” happen if Suarez hadn’t have made the first move? Because that happened, it gave Evra…. a chip on his shoulder… it made him pissed off. Granted, he shouldn’t have done it, but it still was Suarez’s action that made him riled. If Suarez had shook his hand, and Evra celebrated like that…. Wll then that is a different matter.
agree with Gene too. The effort of a logical respone (And a very good effort too) is always welcomed… even if the source is from a Liverpool fan :)
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 5:07 PM GMT up reply actions
In no way am I trying to defend Suarez
But this is the old, “two wrongs don’t make a right”
Evra could have walked out of OT today with his head held high and would have been regarded in high-esteem throughout the football world as a very decent man who tried to put this behind him. But he didn’t, he acted quite childish, by instigating a fight in the tunnel, if all accounts that are trickling in are correct, and then the crap at the end.
I totally agree that Suarez could have prevented all of this, but that doesn’t necessarily make what Evra did acceptable either.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
If that man didn’t want to shake your hand, what on earth would make him think that he would want to talk to him at halftime
Maybe because he wanted to know why he was snubbed? Ever after he confronted him, Suarez gave him the silent treatment when he went to talk to him.
Personally I see no problem with how Evra handled himself. This was a huge burden for him and with this win Evra finally got his vindication. Huge load off of his back.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:20 PM GMT up reply actions
Come on now
Really? You think Evra didn’t know why he was snubbed?
Why do you think Evra got the silent treatment? Oh yeah, because last time Suarez opened his mouth to Evra he ended up in hot water. Why would Suarez want to do that again? Sometimes it is best to stay silent and walk away.
Also, I don’t think Evra got vindication. His behavior in the tunnel and afterwards will have prevented that. I agree that Suarez shouldn’t have snubbed him, but Evra didn’t have to come down to Suarez’s level.
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because last time Suarez opened his mouth to Evra he ended up in hot water
Yes, slinging a racial slur towards a black man would do that.
I see nothing wrong with what Evra did. He wanted an answer on why he was snubbed and Suarez gave him the cold shoulder instead of facing him.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:56 PM GMT up reply actions
It doesn't matter
My point is that Suarez still feels he didn’t do that, but when he did speak it was taken out of context and got him in trouble. So in his eyes, why would he want to put himself in the situation again? He probably feels Evra would take something out of context again.
Let me cut you off though, I am not saying Evra did that, but in Suarez’s eyes he did.
The other thing is that we don’t know exactly what was said in that first incident at Anfield and never will. The findings were merely that they thought that Suarez racially abused him. Not that Evra’s account was factually 100% accurate, nor did they determine what was actually said. They just decided that Evra’s account was the more likely scenario and therefore the more accurate of the two which lent them to believe that Suarez did racially abuse Evra. So from that point, Suarez thinks he didn’t do it and last time he did he talked to Evra he got in trouble. I think the silent treatment makes perfect sense from Suarez’s point of view.
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I'd comment on that, but Gene told us to move on from issue
See below.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 6:18 PM GMT up reply actions
Ahh
Sounds good. Maybe some other time.
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Sure Bromantic, another time.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 6:28 PM GMT up reply actions
There is an obvious answer to why Suarez didn't want to confront Evra
Cause Suarez is a BITCH!
Such keen insight
You have really opened my eyes.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
How can you seriously compare this to the Terry/ Bridge situation? Refusing to shake the hand of the former teammate who slept with the mother of your child and refusing to shake the hand of the guy who told on you for making racist remarks are not the same thing. This should be as obvious as a slap in the face…
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by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 8:19 PM GMT up reply actions
You forget Suarez feels he didn't do anything wrong and that the judgement was wrong
And the fact remains that no one knows what was actually said. Just that the commission decided there was enough to reasonably suspect that Suarez did abuse Evra.
I’m not defending Suarez. I think he did abuse Evra and should have shook his hand. I think it was the complete wrong thing to do. However, I do defend his right to do it. Just like free speech, we say sometimes in the military, “I may not like what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.”
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Nice to see Manchester United top of the table right now
Come on Villa!
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Shame Villa are fucking awful
Mind you
Robbie Keane is banging in the goals
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 5:18 PM GMT up reply actions
Robbie Keane is banging in the goals
And that will change real quickly once he goes back to MLS.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:21 PM GMT up reply actions
Long may it continue this weekend though!
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 5:22 PM GMT up reply actions
Yeah seriously
I hope he goes out with a bang by netting a HT.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:23 PM GMT up reply actions
Now that would shorten the GD advantage City have over us
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 5:24 PM GMT up reply actions
That's why i'm hoping it happens.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:27 PM GMT up reply actions
Yeah and Spurs scored both of those goals in the first 5 mins of the game
Talk about an energy suck for Newcastle.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:44 PM GMT up reply actions
Now 3-0
Saha with a brace.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 5:50 PM GMT up reply actions
If I may throw my hat into the ring here...
Valencia and Scholes today were absolutely superb today. Scholesy put on a central midfielder’s masterclass and Valencia put Enrique in all sorts of bother. Co-MOTM for me.
by FromAutzenWithLove on Feb 11, 2012 5:53 PM GMT reply actions
My sister is a cheerleader for the U of Oregon! Go Ducks, haha
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 8:20 PM GMT up reply actions
Boooo!
I’m a diehard U of Washington fan! I suppose we can play nice here though. Also, I’m weak… I do have a soft spot for their cheerleaders.
I think I may have just made an inappropriate comment about a reader’s sister (awkward).
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I think I've made a lot of inappropriate comments about his sister...
Sorry Useful_Idiot
by FromAutzenWithLove on Feb 11, 2012 9:13 PM GMT up reply actions
You'd be surprised by the stories I've heard
For example, when they go to fan events to talk to people and sign autographs, they always get a handful of middle-aged guys asking them out for drinks (which is even weirder when you consider that a lot of the cheerleaders aren’t 21 yet) and asking to friend them on facebook.
Having said that, from my experiences, the people up in Eugene are some of the nicest people I’ve ever met. It almost makes you uncomfortable when you’re used to living in a big city… “Why is everyone being so polite and smiling at me?”
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 9:24 PM GMT up reply actions
wear purple and gold with a huge 'W' and see if you get the same reaction
I traveled to Provo in 2010 for a UW game versus BYU… I was really thrown off by polite everyone was there. It was similar when I traveled to Salt Lake City this past Fall for a game vs Utah. Nice people in that area.
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I have to be honest, I don’t know anything about Oregon football except that LaMichael James is fast and their uniforms are a different color each week. The atmosphere at Autzen, when I went, was pretty cool. I had no idea what was happening on the field, though. I really think football is one of the few sports that’s much more enjoyable to watch on TV.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 9:28 PM GMT up reply actions
Just to clarify...
Rafael beat Carroll in the air…twice :)
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Rafael beat Carroll in the air…twice
So Carroll earned his $35 million dollar paycheck today, yes?
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The Manchester United Football Club: Winning countless trophies and making City fans jealous and full of envy since 1902.
by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 6:06 PM GMT up reply actions
Andy Carroll has been no better than awful every time I’ve seen him play.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 8:21 PM GMT up reply actions
Except the final 10' of the FA Cup tie
But he was atrocious for the first 80’.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game" -Bill Shankly
I'm going to make a request
For those who have already expressed their opinion on the Evra/Suarez situation in this thread, I’m going to kindly request that you comment no more right now. This comment may get lost in the sea of comments already here but if you see this, I’d appreciate it if you went along with this request.
I’m not going to close the comments or anything because this post was intended to encourage discussion of the match. I respect most of the opinions that have been expressed thus far — even the ones I don’t agree with myself — but I just want to prevent our conversation from getting repetitive… and ultimately tiresome.
Thanks in advance everyone!
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by Gene Um on Feb 11, 2012 6:03 PM GMT reply actions 2 recs
No problem Gene.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 6:06 PM GMT up reply actions
Liverpool fan here
I haven’t commented in this thread yet, but I’ll say the same thing I said on the Liverpool board: both Suarez and Evra acted like dicks, and it was disappointing to see that.
gosh
a second relatively decent Manc fan after Sweet Science :) I can’t stand any of the ones I know in person lol. Good plan. And….ah – well played today you lot.
I actually Have no filter.
Never been a big fan of the guy...
But Adebayor is trading Newcastle apart right now…3-0, and it really should be 4 or 5
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 11, 2012 6:12 PM GMT via Android app reply actions
Sorry...
Make that 5 or 6 lol
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 11, 2012 6:15 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
hopes that citeh to drop points tomorrow and suarez is an a'hole
c’mon villans show your awesome form tomorrow
I thought all of you would like to know that the Anfield Cat has chimed in on the situtation:
suarez not shaking someones hand is a disgrace, but cantona drop kicking a fan is okay? you’ve got to be kitten me mr ferguson
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 6:57 PM GMT reply actions
"you've got to be kitten me mr ferguson"
hahaha
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Yeah his twitter feed is good stuff
I mean it’s very anti-United, but if you have a thick skin and a good sense of humor, you’ll find his tweets to be pretty entertaining.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 7:51 PM GMT up reply actions
Poorly played match?
I’ll watch the match a 2nd time before I do the tactical review but on an initial viewing (and on 3 hours of sleep), I didn’t think either side played that well. United certainly were better at Anfield a fortnight ago in my opinion.
Your thoughts on this?
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We played well enough I thought..
But it was because Liverpool was very very poor..
It was a very sloppy game on both sides
Liverpool were just a bit sloppier. Valencia has to be your MoM in my eyes. I realize “the Scouser in a Wig” got two, but the game turned when Valencia started to become more involved and ran at Enrique while Downing was off looking for the Old Trafford Cat or something. After that Liverpool had a hard time getting a foot in. He is also responsible for the corner that set up Rooney’s first. Rooney was pretty anonymous apart from his goals (I realize that sounds dumb, but you know what I mean).
It was definitely played with more emotion than skill on both sides. I thought Evra wasn’t very good either. He really seems to be in a slump.
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I thought we were Really limited
Downing has been as bad as I thought he would be, but overall I thought they were a lot better than us, and when those goals went in, all I thought was ‘they were coming’. To take the time off working and sit through that was not fun. Next time I’m having the radio on in the background….
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I thought we were Really limited
Not helped by the way Dalglish set you up. No Bellamy or Charlie Adam. Both should have been shoe in’s. Adam for his delivery on set pieces, to really test any shortcomings of De Gea. Bellamy… for his pace and finishing ability
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 7:39 PM GMT up reply actions
"No Bellamy or Charlie Adam"
I’m still scratching my head as well on why either of these two weren’t in the starting XI, espically Bellamy. I mean he’s a fantastic player for LFC and he didn’t start him in one of the biggest games of the season for LFC? Baffles me. Not complaining about it or anything, just saying if I was a LFC fan I would of question Dalglish’s decsion to do this.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 7:50 PM GMT up reply actions
He seems to be in a slump
Its called getting older and unfortunately there is no " getting over" on father time.
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 11, 2012 7:28 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
"there is no " getting over" on father time"
Unless your name is Paul Scholes or Ryan Giggs, then you can get over father time.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 7:33 PM GMT up reply actions
one important thing Rooney provides, even if he happens when he happens to play poorly....
is his work-rate and movement. He provides the link between midfield and attack — which was missing at Anfield during the FA Cup match until Park played in this role — in the space between the lines. Also, we can play this 4-4-2/4-4-1-1ish shape against 3 man midfields because he does so well to track back and get goalside of the opposition’s deepest-lying midfielder when United lose possession.
I’m actually hoping to write a post on this soon if I can find the time — but it’s a little alarming how tactically reliant United are on Rooney.
Agree on Valencia… he’s been our most incisive attacker for the past month or so.
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*even when he happens to play poorly
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Rooney was pretty anonymous apart from his goals (I realize that sounds dumb, but you know what I mean).
I disagree – He was forever linking up with Welbeck in the first half, who constantly made some terrible decisions whenever he got in some real dangerous positions.
Rooney was dropping deep, linking up play beautifully, and all his performance needed was a goal or two…. Oh wait! :)
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 7:36 PM GMT up reply actions
I thought Evra wasn’t very good either. He really seems to be in a slump.
Just because you have the best LB in the league………
Evra was almost as bad as last week. And he was shite last week
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 7:40 PM GMT up reply actions
Enrique probably has been the best LB this season
But I still like Leighton Baines
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Rooney always, always plays better when Valencia is in his top form. They just partner really well, and I think Rooney has even come out and said as much.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 8:25 PM GMT up reply actions
Rooney has
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I thought we sucked in the first half, to be honest. Carrick and Scholes both seemed to be struggling. Good thing we picked it up in the second half.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 8:23 PM GMT up reply actions
I actually don't think we played very well
Like you said, we were poor in the 1st half — especially early on. I’m planning on watching it a 2nd time at some point this weekend so I wonder if my opinion will change then. Fergie thought we played well though.
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I don't think we played poor in the first half
I thought our passing and was good but we just couldn’t get through LFC’s defense once we got close to the box.
Second half was a different story, we were able to break their defense to get two quick goals, incuding one off of a great corner kick play and another one by having Antonio Valencia being able to force a turnover and being able to pass it to Rooney properly who booted it home. After that we took over the game, we were able to tighten up the defence to the point where Liverpool couldn’t get zilch passed us and from then on we dictated the pace of the game.
IMHO I think if Jonny Evans didn’t slip up on the play that led to LFC’s only goal, De Gea would of kept a clean sheet.
So I disagree Gene, I believed we played a good game overall and a great 2nd half. Couldn’t of it been better in the 1st half? Of course, I would of like to seen more aggressiveness in United’s attack but I would never use the word “poor” to describe the 1st half or even the entire game.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 8:49 PM GMT up reply actions
It all came together in the end, but it appeared to take the guys a while to get into a rhythm.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2012 9:20 PM GMT up reply actions
Sometimes it takes awhile for a team to get going
It’s not uncommon to see games go into halftime 0-0. With a expierenced and older team like United, sometimes it can take a bit to get a engine running and form a formable strategy of attack.
It happens as we saw today. But as long as we play good football and win games it dosen’t matter if it takes a bit to get into rhythm as long as you do.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 11:25 PM GMT up reply actions
4 points from away to Chelsea and home to Liverpool
Had you offered me that scenario a week ago, I’d have accepted it. Obviously we’d prefer 6 but earning 4 is still very good. I’d actually take 4 from our next two matches as well… away to Norwich (who are playing very well) and away to Spurs. And then just hope that City drops pts somewhere during that span.
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Agreed
I mean with Chelsea we were down 3-0 and came back to level it with less than 10 minutes to go.
Norwich will be tough since there a good scrappy team that knows how to eak out points. Not to mention Carrow Road is a huge fortress. But i’m not worried because I know we have the talent to beat them. We traveled to the Liberty to play Swansea in a place where the away team has difficulty getting points and won 1-0. As long as were stingy on defense,we don’t make mistakes and hitting our targets properly we can beat them no question.
Spurs i’m woried about because Spurs have been play great football recently, White Hart Lane is a fortress and after seeing Spurs disperse of Newcastle without having to lift a finger. I’ll need to think about it for a bit before I can make up my mind about how this match will unfold because I think it can go both ways. Yeah we best them earlier in the season but that was in the friendly confines of OT.
Regardless of what the outcomes will be, were in for some good heated football with alot on the line, this is all on top of our huge Europa League tie againist Ajax this week in Amsterdam.
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by Bradley James McEachern on Feb 11, 2012 11:34 PM GMT up reply actions
As long as were stingy on defense,we don’t make mistakes
Shame we have a shocking ability to make mistakes at the back recently
by Sweet science on Feb 11, 2012 11:39 PM GMT up reply actions
Just imagine
If Kuyt had put his shot wide two weeks ago
Or Evra had cut out the flick on from Carroll
We would all be doing this again mid-week :)
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