Is Manchester United too reliant on Wayne Rooney -- again?
Think back to a nine-day span in the Spring of 2010. On March 30, Manchester United and thousands of its supporters had arrived at the Allianz Arena for the first of a UEFA Champions League quarter-final two-legged tie with German giants Bayern Munich. Life was grand for United as they topped the Premier League table while chasing what could be a record-setting fourth successive league title. In addition, Wayne Rooney had exceeded all expectations in his new role as an out-and-out striker to become United's talisman -- it was a season that followed the departures of Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez. The Englishman arrived in Germany with a 33-goal tally in all competitions and he quickly added a 34th inside of 2 minutes in Munich. All was well. All was soon lost.
What followed was this series of unraveling events: Rooney injured his ankle later during the match in Munich, he missed what proved to be a league title-decider when United lost to Chelsea FC four days later because of that injury, and he returned too soon during the reverse fixture with Bayern on April 7 -- a nightmare at Old Trafford that saw United blow a 4-2 aggregate goal lead and exit European competition while Rooney limped off just short of the hour-mark.
United lost the league title. United failed to reach a third successive Champions League final. United lost the form of their talisman for a calendar year. How did it all go wrong?
Quite simply, Sir Alex Ferguson's side had become too reliant on Rooney.
Prior to the 2009-10 season -- specifically during the 2007-08 season when they conquered both England and Europe -- United were a side that typically played counter-attacking football in a 4-3-3/4-5-1 hybrid system during 'big matches'. This system often involved two relatively deep central-midfielders that were passers (Paul Scholes and Michael Carrick) alongside an industrious third player (Darren Fletcher, Anderson, or Owen Hargreaves) that freed up those passers. Ahead of them was a fluid and interchangeable front three that could break at incredible speed: Rooney, Ronaldo, and Tevez could play as either wide or central forwards -- depending on match-ups -- while Park Ji-sung was often deployed as a wide attacker in away matches. The quality of these attackers is obvious but their versatility provided Fergie tremendous tactical flexibility as well. United were far from reliant on a single player due to this.
The diagram below showcases this flexible 4-3-3/4-5-1 counterattacking system:

Following the departures of Ronaldo and Tevez in the summer of 2009, Dimitar Berbatov -- who had been brought to United during the summer of 2008 for a club record fee in the region of £30 million -- and Antonio Valencia -- who had been bought during the summer of 2009 for a fee in the region of £16 million -- had essentially become the prominent players who were viewed as replacements. In addition, the club had signed striker Michael Owen as well. All three players are -- and/or have been -- fantastic players but none provided the versatility of Ronaldo and Tevez*. If a certain match-up was hindering United, or if they faced tactics that troubled their side, Fergie couldn't simply move Berbatov or Valencia around into other attacking areas. Berbatov struggles without a striker partnership -- thus 4-3-3/4-5-1 is not an optimal system for him -- and he can't play out wide. ** As for Valencia, he can only play on the right flank.
* Obviously, Valencia has become an important and successful player for United but this highlights his limited positional flexibility.
** But he can play center-back!
Luckily for United, Rooney thrived in his increasing role as an out-and-out striker and this lessened the blow of Berbatov's inconsistencies. Rooney scored 26 league goals that season in this role -- prior to this current season, he had never scored more than 16 league goals in any other season -- and his prolific goalscoring was masking the loss of United's versatility from previous seasons. However, when United lost Rooney in early April of 2010, their alarming reliance on their talisman caused them to also lose the league title and another chance at a 4th European Cup for the club. Without Rooney's sheer match-winning ability, United were exposed as a side that were now stale and static in attack. They had become over-reliant on one man.
About a year ago -- following a period where he had a miserable 2010 World Cup, had embarrassing revelations about his personal life, and infamously threatened to leave United before signing a new contract -- Rooney regained his form and helped lead United to their record-setting 19th league title and to an appearance in the most recent Champions League final. His goalscoring rates had dropped from his career-high 2009-10 season but his assists had dramatically increased -- his combined goal and assist total from the 2010-11 season was still comparable to his previous campaign. Thus, his influence had not diminished once he regained his form last season in time for the run-in.
During this past calendar year, Rooney's role at United has differed from that 2009-10 one. Similar to his first five seasons at the club, he dropped deep again and linked the midfield to the attack. The space that Rooney typically occupies -- between the opposition's defensive and midfield lines -- is similar to that of a classic 'number ten' or 'trequartista'. However, that label is arguably inaccurate for him -- because he provides so much more.
Some between the lines attackers come into that space from deep, some float in that space while trying to slip a marker, and some drop deep into it from a striker's position. Rooney does the latter. From here, his unique blend of power with his precision in range of passing makes him an obvious world-class creator. He is able to penetrate a defense with powerful driving runs but he can also pick a pass that splits a defense. His work-rate and willingness to involve himself in his side's attacking moves allows him to take up impressively deep positions at times. From here, he can spray long-diagonal balls to the flanks for United's dangerous wingers (his 5.3 accurate long-balls is only bettered in the Premier League by goalkeepers, defenders, and midfielders -- players who have more natural incentive to play long balls from deeper positions) or he can calmly slide the ball out wide and bring the full-backs into attack.
Rooney's tremendous energy provides another important benefit -- the ability to win the ball. United's preferred shape for the past year has been a 4-4-2/4-4-1-1ish one. In this system, Rooney plays withdrawn from a lead striker -- typically Danny Welbeck or Javier Hernandez (Chicharito) and his work-rate often prevents his side from being overrun versus opponents that deploy three-man central-midfields. When United are out of possession, Rooney tracks back so that he can engage in a battle to win the ball back. His combative ways can free up deeper-lying distributors such as Scholes, Carrick, Ryan Giggs, and Tom Cleverley.
The following diagram shows how United in a 4-4-1-1 shape with Rooney can still compete in midfield against sides that deploys three players in the center of the park:

Rooney's unique range of attributes in this withdrawn role brings up some questions for me: If United were to lose Wazza for a significant portion of time during the upcoming run-in, could they replace his attacking production? Probably not. Could they replicate his tremendous defensive qualities? Probably not. Could they find someone to provide cover for both of his attacking and defensive ability? Most certainly not.
Thus, it would obviously be difficult to provide adequate cover for Rooney if the talisman were to get injured. In addition, for reasons outlined earlier, United still look uninspiring when they are deployed in a 4-3-3/4-5-1 system. Perhaps then, they have become too reliant on their talisman again -- albeit in a different role this time around.
Possible deputies for Rooney?
* Dimitar Berbatov: The Bulgarian also prefers to drop deep but not to the same extent as Rooney. He does well to link play but he certainly doesn't provide the same defensive qualities as Rooney. Berbatov's involvement would mean United would play in a 4-4-2 shape -- one that would be vulnerable against three-man central-midfield sides.
* Ashley Young: The England international played both as a winger and as a central-attacking-midfielder for Aston Villa prior to his move to Old Trafford. Thus, much of Young's value was perceived to be in his versatility. However, when he had an opportunity to play behind a lead striker in November, he failed to inspire in that role versus Benfica during a Champions League tie. If given more games in this role, could he emerge as an able deputy?
* Park Ji-sung: The industrious and versatile attacker is able to link play well in a role behind a striker. He also provides the tactical benefit of harassing any influential deep-lying playmakers, such as he brilliantly did to Andrea Pirlo in 2010 when United faced Milan over a two-legged Champions League tie. However, United's recent FA Cup tie with Liverpool exhibited Rooney's importance as Park couldn't provide the same incisiveness in attack.
* Ryan Giggs: The legendary Welshman tends to play too deep and drift out wide when deployed in a similar withdrawn role from a lead striker role. While he has the quality to provide a final product, he often fails to take up the correct positions when deployed as a between the lines player while in a central role.
Do you feel United have become too reliant on Rooney again? How do you feel the club would manage if he were to get injured for a significant portion of time for the run-in? Would you prefer a system shift or do you feel someone on the squad could be an able deputy? Feel free to share your thoughts in the comments section below.
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Anderson
When he was signed from the Portuguese league he was an attacking midfielder. Then he spent quite a long time learning the defensive duties in his early years at united. It’s unfortunate that he just never got the consistent run of matches to establish himself in the first XI. I say he should be given a chance to take up the no.10 role. But sir Alex seems to have seen him as a deep lying playmaker (just like carrick) :(
And yes we rely on Wazza too much
After all, Sir Alex went way out of character to make sure Roo signed the extension contract last year.
He just gives so much to the team as compared to Tevez and Ronaldo. No efforts were made to stop Tevez from leaving (wise choice btw), and Ronaldo spent an extra year with us before eventually leaving (suspected agreement between clubs a year prior to his departure). The tactical flexibility Wazza provides, the determination and drive… Seriously, we cannot afford to lose him at all cost. Sir Alex absolutely played his cards well in making Wazza eat his words (I guess the fans who were hooligan-ing outside Roo’s house played a somewhat vital role too haha)
He got a run of games early this season
He started the season very well and formed a nice partnership with Cleverley. However, Ando’s form eventually dropped and then he got hurt. If anything, that’s a microcosm of his career at United. Inconsistency and injury have hurt him.
Ando can provide driving runs from deep with well-timed late-arriving runs, but he’s not a No. 10. He’s a box-to-box type but he can effectively play as the most advanced midfielder in a midfield trio — this is match-up dependent though.
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Okay, maybe not a no.10
Then again Rooney offers more than a typical no.10 too. I tend to think of him as a ‘box-to-box striker’. So theoretically Anderson should be able to deputize for Rooney
Te thing is
Rooney scores from his position. Ando….. Doesn’t :)
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 1:15 AM GMT up reply actions
Haha, fair enough
He’s slowly picking it up though. If you looked at his scoring record he’s been doubling them every season =)
After seeing 2 years worth of work from Anderson (granted, that isn't a HUGE body of work, but telling nonetheless),
I’ve come to regard him with annoyance and irritation. And since his first 2 seasons of first-team action, has he improved at all? I feel this because at his age, “fitness issues” translate out to “laziness” IMO. Sir Alex’s reliance on him is bewildering. I just don’t get it, nor do I understand his contract extension for the following reasons:
1) On the attack he is seldom attempts the creative passes that you see Scholes, Valencia or Nani willing to make. So, either he is unimaginative, or incapable of making passes that spring attacks and create shots for teammates.
2) On the defensive, when do you ever see him even in position to halt or disrupt an attack in the midfield, much less ACTUALLY serve as a ball hawk there? In fact, when the opponent is preparing to attack into the United penalty area, Anderson is rarely even helping the back-4 out.
3) When in position to take a shot on goal, he usually passes on it, which may explain why he scores once every solar eclipse.
Anderson is certainly not the answer and why Sir Alex seems to keep giving him the chances that Darron Gibson was not, is mystifying. Say what you want about Gibson, he was an attacker — whether passing or firing on goal himself. Anderson’s signature play seems to be the back-pass… to the United keeper.
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by TiderUpNorth on Feb 14, 2012 8:23 PM GMT up reply actions
I do think you are being a little harsh
FOr the first part of this season he and Cleverley were outstanding. They were tering teams apart with their simple short passing and movement
by Sweet science on Feb 14, 2012 11:14 PM GMT up reply actions
Anderson’s signature play seems to be the back-pass…
His signature play, imo, is taking the ball and running with it.. He looks really dangerous when he does that..
though he always has a stunning run in him...
generally they end in a heavy touch or a bad pass or a weak shot on
by crazylegsdayne on Feb 15, 2012 1:28 PM GMT up reply actions
Neither do I..
But I like to see him run often than just sitting in front of the defence..
Ando isn't lazy when he's on the pitch, it's just that his inconsistency is maddening
How quickly people forget how well he played at season’s beginning. I wrote quite a bit about it but this column by David Pleatt sums up what he provides in a few paragraphs. He certainly leaves more to be desired, but some of the criticisms of him are tiresome. He does much more than “just sit in front of the defence..”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/sep/11/manchester-united-bolton-anderson
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I rarely see him contribute anything even remotely Scholes-like or Keane-like to the attack.
Yes, I am quite harsh on Anderson because soooooo much is made of his abilities. Okay, if he is such a great young talent, why doesn’t he create the shooting opportunities that Giggs still creates for teammates? He has shown he is either unwilling or incapable of creating his own shot ops. Does he give the ball away in the midfield — no, but I’m not going to laud a guy with accolades for simply holding possession.
I will be the first to agree that comparing someone to Giggs, Scholes or Keane-o sets the bar quite high, but Sir Alex has not only brought Anderson on board, he has extended his contract while sending others away forever or on loans. And I simply do not see the results befitting of a player who has shown so little improvement over 4-5 years.
And (for Sweet Science) if anyone was brilliant early in the season, it was Cleverly and Young.
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by TiderUpNorth on Feb 15, 2012 8:46 PM GMT up reply actions
And (for Sweet Science) if anyone was brilliant early in the season, it was Cleverly and Young.
And Rooney, and Welbeck… Nani……. And Anderson was too
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 11:41 PM GMT up reply actions
Yes, I forgot a few. You're quite the Anderson promoter, aren't you?
But once again, with Anderson’s contract extension, his performance should be befitting of the faith SAF places in him. When Scholes, Giggs, Beckham and Keane were rising in their careers, I’d certainly say they earned that faith. On Anderson the jury is still very much out.
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by TiderUpNorth on Feb 16, 2012 4:03 PM GMT up reply actions
On United's reliance on Rooney...
Players like him are a rare breed. Ever since he matured past his blitzkrieg-red-card days, he has shown how outstanding he is evey facet of the game. The article was an excellent analysis on Wayne’s contributions to United. You have to lean on such a player, because he is that rare example of an outstanding player throughout the length of the field who also embodies the team’s heart and soul.
Cristiano? Murderous on the offensive and absent on the defensive.
Tevez? Murderous on the offensive, but attitude problems have been exposed in his assignments since leaving United.
Rooney has transcended the short-comings of both of these players and has become United’s best leader since Roy Keane — I think we can see many similarities between the two. But even considering how important Rooney is to Man United, just (try to anyway) imagine what Sir Alex will have to devise when Scholes and Giggs retire…
9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.
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we're clearly a better team right now this way
It’s not the optimal way to build a squad, but perhaps it’s the most prudent way for now.
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I would still welcome back Cristiano in an instant :)
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I was watching youtube videos of rooney, ronaldo and tevez the other day...
I shed a single tear.
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 14, 2012 10:30 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
There has been talk of a return
I was thinking of doing an article….. but I doubt very much it will come to fruitition
by Sweet science on Feb 14, 2012 11:16 PM GMT up reply actions
Watching those three in counter attack was poetry in motion....perfection
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 14, 2012 11:53 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
the one I'll never forget....
The Park, Ronaldo, and Rooney one vs Arsenal.
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was that he game we had 10 men
Or was Fletch sent off in the other leg?
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 1:03 AM GMT up reply actions
that's it!
One of my favorite all-time goals
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Cristiano
It’s ridiculous that some Real Madrid fans — and even some media — pass any blame on him. I can’t blame him if he ever feels underappreciated. Having said that, I can’t see us handing over the money for a return. The £80m or whatever it was that we sold for him… actually looks like a bargain for Madrid.
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Depends how much they would be willing to sell
Because it won’t be for a few years…. and by then his contract would have ran down a little. I wonder how much is the biggest fee they have recieved for a player. I doubt it is more than 30M tbh
Completley agree about the Madrid fans. What a bunch of idiots. The same fans that want Jose Mourinho out (HELLO…. YOUR 10 POINTS CLEAR OF BARCA)
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 12:17 AM GMT up reply actions
good point on Mourinho
Madrid — keep sacking managers and see if you can find one better than Mourinho. Pep and Sir Alex ain’t walking though the doors of the Bernabeu.
Hard to believe Cristiano is 27-years-old now… Where does the time go?
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Hard to believe Cristiano is 27-years-old now… Where does the time go?
Makes me feel old…. Seems like an age when he came on against….. Bolton… for his debut…. Correct me on that if I am wrong
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 12:37 AM GMT up reply actions
Thats right
Against Bolton…nine freakin years ago…
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 15, 2012 12:39 AM GMT up reply actions
I'd have just turned 13
Or if it was mid august just about to turn 13…… Wow
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 12:41 AM GMT up reply actions
The same with Rooney
It seems like Yesterday that he cam on for Everton, plucked that ball out of the air and smashed his shot past Seamen off the underside of the bar
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 12:44 AM GMT up reply actions
Cover for Rooney was my number 1 reason for wanting Sneijder this summer
Options are certainly lacking as the squad is currently comprised.
for £35m and £200k wages/week?
no way
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That wasn't my point.
In comparing the potential midfield buys, this was his biggest plus. He filled a need as a midfielder and excellent cover for Rooney.
Obviously the price tag was his biggest minus.
in our current 4-4-1-1 system...
Sneijder would hinder us as he would need to defend as well… this is perhaps the most important tactical contribution Rooney provides when we play in this system. Otherwise, we simply get overrun in the midfield and would have to revert to a 4-3-3/4-5-1… something we haven’t done particularly well since we lost our versatile attackers.
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I understand your point but...
neither Anderson or Cleverley are known for their defensive abilities and the squad excelled with that partnership through the first month+ of the season.
Ando can actually do a job defensively...
when he wants to. Ask Cesc Fabregas.
We were incredibly open in the back and remember the incredibly high number of shots on target we were conceding? Worst in the league through like 6-7 games if I remember correctly. Too much space between the lines. It’s okay to have a go at lesser teams — Spurs and Arsenal were certainly that in August when they were going through turmoil — but we got exposed vs. Chelsea (remember, they opened us up badly despite only scoring one goal), Basel, and City. That approach is not prudent in ‘big matches’. I could go on and on about this in further detail but I’ve already written thousands of words on it all in September-November. We’re out of the Champions League because of these tactics.
We drastically shifted our tactics after that stretch of games: Slower tempo and possession based football while keeping it more compact between the lines. Carrick has played a big part in turning our tactics around and Scholes has taken it a step further on the possession-based part. Those 1-0 ugly games we endured in late November-December served a purpose: it laid down a tactical foundation to keep things tighter in the back.
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I get your point nolefansam
Ideally speaking Sneijder would bring a fresh tactical option to our team. We would need to have 2 anchormen behind Sneijder to maximize his attacking capabilities without burdening him too much at the defensive end. In our current set up we are missing a Hargreaves/Keane/de Jong type of hardman. Carrick is a deep lying playmaker who has great positional sense, while Scholesey… you wouldn’t even bear to watch him tackle =.=
So in other words, buying Sneijder as another option for Rooney would mean we need a couple of more defensive minded midfielders. Otherwise the ‘Veron’ problem might appear again
I'll stick with Nani over Sneijder.
The team this season has far too many injuries to do anything as rash as bringing an expensive player to OT who… possibly fits the attack system. And PLEASE, let’s not forget how Ashley Young was torching defenses early in the season.
Cristiano coming back would be nice for the right price IF he realizes that the grass is most certainly NOT greener in Madrid’s spoiled backyard. My God, do those fans suck canal water.
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by TiderUpNorth on Feb 15, 2012 8:38 PM GMT up reply actions
Anderson/Rooney
I’m of the opinion that, besides the injuries, anderson had been mis-managed. This kid was called the next ronaldinho, and when he came to Man U, he got miscast as a defensive midfielder. I think he can still fulfill his potential, he showed it against shalke. Its my hope that playing alongside of Cleverley can be a catalyst for him.
Speaking of cleverley, I think that he is the only person that has the skillset (versatility) to recreate what rooney does.
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 14, 2012 10:24 PM GMT via Android app reply actions
If we look back to the 07/08 season
Our front line consisted off Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez. That is three world class players who could hurt any team in the world. If one gets injured, fine, we play the other two.
Look to this season. While we have many very good players, the only World class player is Rooney. So if he gets hurt, or loses form…. What do we do? Hernandez, Welbeck and Berbatov are all fine plays (Well, when I say Dimi….) but Rooney really is the one that make all three tick.
When I see Rooney missing from a teamsheet, unless the opposition are truly terrible, then I do have a little worry about where the attacking intent is going to come from, and how the fluidity of the team is going to be affected
On a completley differnt note, apparntly Eden Hazard wants a move to Spurs… WTF
I guess hazard is smarter than I gave him credit for....
Looking at it from where he’s going to play CL football AND get the most playing time…Tottenham isn’t a bad choice…especially since chelsea may not end up 4th.
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 14, 2012 11:52 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
Let's see what happens to Spurs if they lose 'Arry
Bale and Modric could leave while Adebayor might not be there next season after his loan expires. Would Hazard want to go there then?
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God I would love Bale and Modric
One would be enough… but what if we really splash some cash (We won’t, but it is nice to fream)
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 12:18 AM GMT up reply actions
If you could pick one, Bale or Modric?
Modric for me… and it’s a bigger need for us since we got 4 good wingers.
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I'd rather have Modric too
Bale is still young, but he’s still seems like a one trick pony to me. Kind of like a longer, taller Valencia.
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 15, 2012 12:26 AM GMT up reply actions
He has more to his game I feel
Recently he has been playing more centrally as well… and Excelling. He has a more cultured left foot too than Valencia (AV’s right foot obviously)
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 12:45 AM GMT up reply actions
Bale has grown this season
He’s had the freedom to roam in behind the lead striker in recent months and he’s played quite well.
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Even last season
Would the Valencia of this season score three goals away to Inter? I think not
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 1:04 AM GMT up reply actions
I guess I underrate Bale
bc of how completely Rafael shut him down in our games last year…or was it Fabio? I never know anymore..
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 15, 2012 1:05 AM GMT up reply actions
That performance won him PFA player of the year.
He had moments in the PL after that but there was a definite consistency issue.
PFA player of the year for Bale was a joke last year
He disappeared after March. It was a travesty that Nani was left off the list.
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 15, 2012 1:32 AM GMT up reply actions
Yeah
No way he deserved PFA
But still, he has those performances in his locker
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 1:36 AM GMT up reply actions
since we got 4 good wingers
Nani… Young…. Valencia……. No just 3
hahaha
Nice knowing you people
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 12:38 AM GMT up reply actions
Probably not
Unless this Mourinho to Tottenham nonsense takes hold…
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 15, 2012 12:32 AM GMT up reply actions
To answer the question...
Yes, United is far too reliant on Rooney. Hopefully in our future signings and player development, we focus more on versatility (Rooney, Welbeck, Jones, Smalling, Cleverley etc) and less on specialists (Valencia, Berbatov). As great as Berbatov and Valencia have been, this team CLEARLY gets to its highest heights when we have players all over the field who can play different positions…especially in the front three.
Valencia
He is in the form of his life….. But if we played Braca tomorow… would you bet on him making a difference….
Like against Barca in last years final… Rooney was the only one that was going to score for us
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 12:40 AM GMT up reply actions
That game was brutal wasn't it?
The futility of Chicharito making run after run after run and never getting the ball…he wasn’t scoring in that match or 10 more replays lol
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 15, 2012 12:55 AM GMT up reply actions
Chicharito
He’s an extreme example of a player not being able to contribute if he’s starved of service. If he can’t get on the end of things in the box, he provides little. Although, he does stretch the defense by playing off the shoulder of the last defender. Thus, more space is created underneath for Rooney.
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Wasn't a knock on the Little Pea
Just making a comment on how he was taken out of the game completely.
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 15, 2012 1:07 AM GMT up reply actions
Yeah, I understood you
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That game needed Nani.
His creativity on the break would have been nice. The rumored Valencia at RB would have been a nice touch on the counter as well.
Agree
Valencia deserved the start because of his tremendous form during the run-in. But Nani’s ability to create something out of nothing could have been useful with our attack rarely having any opportunities in that final.
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I think
Because we went with a two man midfield…. Nani was too much of a liability… We would still have been on the back foot, and we needed Park to help down the left flank
If we would have went 4 -5 -1 with Wazza up top on his own, maybe a midfield 3 of Carrick Giggs and Park, with Nani and Valencia on the wings…..
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 1:07 AM GMT up reply actions
My point exactly
Barca is probably the most versatile team in the entire world…players that can take up inter-changable positions and 10 players who feel comfortable with the ball at their feet make them the best in the world (position in La Liga notwithstanding). I think SAF is doing his best to fill his team with similar versatile players. Which is why he could not let Rooney go under any circumstances.
That Barca team
Was the best in my lifetime…. and although I can’t really say the best of all time, because I havn’t seen all of the world’s best teams…. if their is a team that can beat that, then fair play
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 1:01 AM GMT up reply actions
This is the 4th year since Pep took over Barca
Teams have started to figure Barcelona out. In the first 3 years everyone seemed content on losing to Barca instead of putting up a fight. Now everyone knows how to stifle and frustrate them by sitting deep and hoping to salvage a point at least.
It’s the first big test for Pep – to move on tactically, face changes in personnel and adapt to changes. This is why Sir Alex is greater than Pep – he’s done it for 20 years.
No dount Fergie is a better manager
For the reasons you stated
But I don’t thin Barca drop these points last season. They have made a few changes in personel and Xavi and Iniesta have been injured for parts of the season I believe
by Sweet science on Feb 15, 2012 1:48 AM GMT up reply actions
so did we actually sign him up?
There’s no official statement after all, if i’m not mistaken
Yeah, so all we need to do is find another one of the top 10 players in the world
without breaking the bank? How hard can it be?
I know, right?!
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I know you're being sarcastic....
but this club’s history is littered with times that we’ve had an 11 on the field that had 4 or more players that were top 5 at their position in the world. many of those players were developed, some were bought. Bottom line, this club has the resources and the know how to get or develop another top 10 player to pair with Rooney.
by Amen Amachigh on Feb 15, 2012 5:52 PM GMT via Android app up reply actions
oh I know that. Just not pretending it’s easy.
In fact, I think it’s probably harder now than it used to be, with the chelski’s and citski’s of the world having billionaire owners flood the market with cash. There’s much richer competition now for those handful of elite players (and yes, manchester developed a lot of them ourselves, but did so with the ability to raid other people’s acadamies for top young prospects. Rooney was not a red from the age of 11, and in today’s world there are much lower odds that he would have been bought to Old Trafford).

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